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Re: A list of directories posted here

  • Subject: Re: A list of directories posted here
  • From: Ignoramus31151 <ignoramus31151@NOSPAM.31151.invalid>
  • Date: 1 Jun 2005 17:19:33 GMT
  • Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines
  • Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com
  • References: <MPG.1d066065a5f12e8b7c@news.btopenworld.com> <429c53e2$0$322$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> <d7hr5l$ovp$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk> <3g3clbFaere1U1@individual.net> <d7i3t1$rg1$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk> <3g5rt0FanooeU1@individual.net> <d7kfvu$2lo9$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk> <d7kji7$rgq$0@pita.alt.net> <d7kp85$2o48$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk>
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:53:42 +0100, Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus31151 wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:20:06 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
>> <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>> The reason I oppose this is two-fold:
>>> 1. The original writers have nothing to protect them from this
>>> plagiarism. If some lady in Berkshire wrote in her Geocities homepage
>>> about how to cook blackberry pie and she then found a copy on a PR7 dot
>>> com site, would she sue?
>> What is the copyright license on these recipes?
> It is a matter of ethics rather than pre-defined law. However, it can be
> taken further if needed and handled juridically, I think.
> Hypothetical example: If I was in the process of writing a thesis and
> somebody scooped it off a temporary directory of mine to then edit and
> publish it, would that be law breaking? Probably no because it was yet
> unpublished.

As a matter of fact, that's incorrect. Copyright is created at the
moment of creation, not when the item is published. So stealing
someone's unfinished copy is a violation of copyright.

>>> 2. Search engines penalise for duplicates. How will the SE's know which
>>> one is the original? It is more likely that the Geocities page is owned
>>> by a low-profile person who mirrored a popular page.
>> I would appreciate some clarification here.
>> How do SE's identify duplicates?
> I don't know, _but_...
> I have an easy way to check if content is original and I know academic use
> it to detect plagiarism. You just take an entire key sentence and paste it
> into Google et al. You then see if the sentence matches elsewhere and then
> follow the sentences around it. Apply, rinse, and repeat if necessary.

Good point.

>> That's a pretty difficult task, given that sites wrap content with
>> their own headers/footers/banners etc etc.
>> I have some wikipedia content at a site of mine (in full compliance
>> with their license), so this issue is quite relevant to me.
> With Wikipedia you are probably 100% safe. I'd still encourage you to have a
> site that reflects on your knowledge. It will make you feel better, trust
> me.

I have that, also. You made a good point though.


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