__/ [George Ellison] on Monday 24 October 2005 16:05 \__
> Segovia <incorrect@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:33:17 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> > -Ubuntu is quick to install and a pain to upgrade and extend. Fetching
>> > gcc, xmms and other packages seems like an utterly unnecessary step.
>> I like it the way it is. I don't want to have to download 3-7 CDs in
>> order to install maybe 1/10th of the packages. The other 9/10ths I'll
>> *never* use, so it's just a waste of my time and their bandwidth. I'd
>> rather download a very basic install, like Ubuntu, then grab the extra
>> stuff I need after.
That's understandable, but see my point about distribution for a beginner and
a distribution intended for intensive work. There is no Registry bloat
(unlike Windows), so more programs do not entail a significant performance
>> If the repos were slow, I might change my mind, but I don't think I've
>> ever gotten under 700 kB/sec from any Ubuntu server, so installing the
>> extra stuff is trivial.
What if you want to install the same distribution on a cluster of machines?
Would you not rather have it complete 'out of the box'?
>> Obviously a person on dial-up would much prefer that he can order the CDs
>> and have *everything* that he needs on them.
> I've tried Ubuntu a few times in the past, and never really felt satisfied.
> GCC and friends are items I consider essential for any Linux distro, and
> Synaptic and apt irritate the shit out of me. It's decent at finding
> depencencies (much better than yum or up2date), but it's kinda confusing to
> grab, say, the newest kernel, source and all, or everything relating to
> KDE. I find Portage much easier to use, and IMO, it's the package manager
> that really makes or breaks a distro. Ubuntu is good for cutting your teeth
> on, but after a while you just want a little more.
YaST has quite a good package management system. You ought to try it.
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