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Re: Unable to download linux version of flash

  • Subject: Re: Unable to download linux version of flash
  • From: Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:23:10 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> __/ [ Mark Kent ] on Friday 31 March 2006 07:35 \__
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>> Lobo <not@xxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:05:37 +0000, Lobo wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:30:40 -0600, Linønutlinønut wrote:
>>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Lobo belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>>> I've been trying for over a week now to fetch the Linux version of
>>>>>> flash player for installing in Firefox (Windows or Ubuntu). The
>>>>>> download starts OK then drops to 0 after getting 1/4 to 1/2 through.
>>>>>> I deleted it from IE and was able to get it right away.
>>>>>> What gives with Macromedia?
>>>>> I had an oddity yesterday where my workplace Linux box couldn't reach
>>>>> www.opera.com at first, even with lynx.
>>>>> Worked fine on Windows.
>>>>> Worked fine with other sites.
>>>>> With www.opera.com, it is stuck "transferring data from opera.com...".
>>>>> Worked fine from Linux at home.
>>>> Opera.com works good. Dowloaded Opera as a test. Nice install tool.
>>>> Unfortunately dependency problem xlib6g (they know about and will be
>>>> making a Dapper version so I'll wait even though I found a repository for
>>>> xlib)
>>>> Still can't download Flash 8 from normal site although I've found Flash 7
>>>> in archives that downloaded. Maybe slashdot effect with so many people
>>>> installing Firefox? I never had this problem months ago with my older
>>>> Firefox. I was even able to install in my test drive of Breezy last
>>>> month.
>>>> I'm now stuck w/o Flash in Firefox (Windows and Linux).
>>> Opps... that s/b flash 7 and 6 respectively
>> So, where's our open flash player?
> Excellent question.
> Open Source DRM is in the making/proposal; we already have an Open Source PDF
> reader; there are even mechanisms (codebase) to penetrate Microsoft Office
> filetypes (incorporated into KOffice, StarOffice, AbiWord, OOo...).

I vaguely recall some work on such a player some time ago, but perhaps
it died due to a lack of interest.  It has been notable that when
reasonable quality software has been ported to linux, people tend to use
the port, rather than develop open versions - in the long-run this is
probably to the detriment of FOSS, but it does show that proprietary
software houses can have a significant impact on the FOSS world.  I
suspsect that if MS had released Office for Linux about 5 years ago,
they could've killed openoffice/staroffice and abiword and so on, or at
least, held up development for another decade, which might've been
enough to get them off the x86 platform altogether.

> I am aware that Microsoft will introduce Sparkle, which is intended to be a
> Flash-killer. They probably have much bigger trouble at the moment, so they
> halted work on their so-called 'Photoshop Killer', as well as other
> projects. They are throwing many developers at the pig and IE7 ATM. Even
> Office and Server seem neglected. Remember that many developers often mess
> things up rather than assist. It is a bad sign when a fleet of boat has got
> troopers jumping from one deck to another. Business strategy is being
> compromised for the sake of survival.

They appear to have played all of their cards now.  They don't even seem
to have any left up their sleeves.  The announcements have an increasing
feel of desperation about them - browsers where MS advise that you only
go to trusted sites, no fix is available, and so on and so on.  Not

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