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Re: KMail 1.9 bounce feature?

  • Subject: Re: KMail 1.9 bounce feature?
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:58:41 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.kde
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [ Jan Luehr ] on Sunday 02 April 2006 14:00 \__

> Hello,
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>> Jan Luehr wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I recently switched from KMail (whatever is in  3.3.2) to KMail 1.9.1
>>> (3.5.1) and instantly missed the bounce feature. (In fact, it's a very
>>> nice way to tell some jerks - those address is verified - to stop sending
>>> mail). Is there a patch / port available for 1.9.1? I really do miss this
>>> feature.
>> Think you have to port it from an older version, I guess the reason it's
>> removed is that many of thous bounces will go to people who don't have to
>> do with the spam and of course the extra bounces generated when the e-mail
>> is a fake one.
> Well, it depends. In general for a lot of people, it's really hard to say,
> whether this bounces are true or faked.( Of cause, nowadays bounces appear
> almost instantly within the smtp-process, but I know and use uucp <-> smtp
> gateways that cannot do simple smtp bounces by design)
> I do see why the programmers do have reasons for removing this or that
> feature and I don't sense in discussing it, I just ask, whether there _is_
> some port / patch.
> Keep smiling
> yanosz

Many Web hosts (including mine) continue to offer challenge/response E-mail
filters, which are server-side utilities similar to  their desktop-side
counterpart: bounce. I have become aware of the fact that it nosifies
cyberspace, so in my Apache settings, I put SpamAssassin before BoxTrapper
as to avoid many 'bounces' earlier on, when spam has been identified (SA is
quite reliable).

KMail no longer has this feature due to its impact on E-mail traffic, which
is on par in its severity to the case described above. It's a somewhat
selfish filter if you assume that spammers will abuse it (and they will!).
This KMail 'issue' was raised and discussed a couple of months ago in this

Best wishes,


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