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Re: People Who Just Can't (or Refuse to) Grip Computing

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in

> __/ [ x0054 ] on Monday 03 April 2006 05:45 \__
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> news:5513396.7KgFi25aBb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>>> Moments ago, I received an E-mail from a colleague, to whom I
>>> initially recommended LaTeX as the tool for creating a poster. He
>>> ignored my suggestion. Here is his message:
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>| Attached is my latest poster. Could you bring it over to Washington
>>>| with yours? This is the first poster I've had to do and I must
>>>| admit that it's been a thoroughly miserable experience! I'm going
>>>| to use LaTeX next time!
>>> `----
>>> Somebody else, who is "Microsoft's favourite client" (victim) wrote
>>> the following this morning (in reference to my LaTeX version):
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>| The difficulty that you are having fitting things in and the
>>>| difficulty I am going to have in helping you sort it out are
>>>| indicative of how inappropriate LaTex is for this kind of task. 
>>>| For a poster one needs a layout tool, where you can control exactly
>>>| what happens, rather than something that does the formatting for
>>>| you.  As I told you when we started this, most people use
>>>| PowerPoint or similar for posters.
>>> `----
>>> <snip />
>> Ok, So admittedly I do not know what kind of poster you are talking
>> about, but if its a visual prop wouldn't you use OO, or Power Point,
>> or GIMP, or Quark, or any other graphical program to do that? LaTeX
>> really is not appropriate for designing of a poster or anything of
>> that nature. Unless the poster just happens to be all text or
>> something. LaTeX is nice for book or manuscript design. But for a
>> poster I would use something grafical.
>>  - Bogdan
> The form of the poster is similar to that of textual documents and
> flow makes it an apparent case where more advatnages can be taken.
> Some other tools are used solely for graphics (the previous poster I
> worked on with the GIMP; a 4000x6000-pixel bitmap) or slideshows.
> Having created the poster as though it was a document (
> http://www.schestowitz.com/temp/isbi_2006_poster.pdf ), I can convert
> it into a document and even export it as (X)HTML. The file is broken
> down in a sensible way, which incorporated semantics. 
> The 'pixel-perfect' approach is often bound to cause trouble because
> it is fragile and non-re-usable. What's more, it depends on a bloated
> package and cannot be edited without a graphical engine such as X.
> Best wishes,
> Roy

Ahh... OK. I looked at that link you sent. That's really more like a 
brochure almost, not really a poster. I would probably use Quark to do 
that, just because I have easy access to that. It would be a pain in the 
ass to do that in Powerpoint (or Impress), I can see that now.

I also totally agree with that quote about a teacher who teaches web 
design by teaching FrontPage. Really sad really. No wonder there are no 
more good Web design firms in US any more. I am in the business and it's 
hard to find a job.

 - Bogdan

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