Robert Newson wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>>> What you neglected to list among your point is the fact that 80% of
>>> the world's spam is despatched from hijacked Windows computers.
> Ok, let's see what the spam I've received says...out of the last 33
> spam that I've received, 32 of them originated from Microsoft powered
> computers, or in percentage terms, that almost 97%.
> Going back to my 2003 archive, on a quick, rough perusal, I find:
> 8625 spam in archive
> 6976 have a definite identified mailer
> 5915 definitely identified as coming from MS powered computers
> or 85% of those defintely identified as MS computer originated.
>  I am more than happy to send you a copy of all 8625 of them if
> you want to do your own anaylsis of the data /BEFORE/ you call me a
>  These are identified as:
> 4192 - Branded as Microsoft mailers
> 907 - Mailers branded for Windows
> 1 - Specific WinNT
> 3 - Specific Win98
> 103 - Pegasus for Win32
> 383 - The Bat! [Only available for Windwos from what I can
> see] 324 - Internet Mail Service [Part of Microsoft Exchange
> Server] 2 - [unbranded] OutLook Express
> 5915 - Total identified as MS powered computer originated.
> There were 112 which messed up the mailer identity, so it's a fairly
> good bet that they wrere MS powered machines, plus there were 1537
> which gave no identifier.
> So the 80% figure is probably fairly accurate.
> For 2004 I have 28,829 spam in my archive...that'll require more than
> a quick perusal.
> For 2005 I have 21,930 spam in the archive. I stopped collecting at
> the beginning of this year from my spammed eaddr (it filled up with
> 1001 messages in about 15 days), but now have spam arriving on my new
> eaddr (which is the 33 mentioned above).
Nice analysis. Unfortunately - for you - not a word of it supports that the
spam came from a hijacked Windows zombie machine.
> What proof, DFS, do /*YOU*/ have that it is /*NOT*/ 80% so that you
> are correct in your assertion that Roy is a liar?
I have no *proof*. No one can have proof of such a nebulous thing.
Therefore I probably shouldn't have called Roy a liar, and I apologize to
him. But at a minimum he's guilty of his typical "advocacy" because he
stated that number without qualifying it as an estimate, and noting it's
based on a 2-year old article. That's what he does when talking about
Windows: misleads and misquotes.
Heck, maybe zombie spam still is at 80% of all spam - no one knows - but:
* in the interim since the article he quotes, XP Service Pack 2 has been
released and Windows security is much improved
* many ISPs have focused on spam and targeted zombie machines and cut them
* no current research I can find supports that 80% figure
I really shouldn't let it bother me; MS is not responsible for securing
Windows any more than Ford is responsible for securing my automobile.