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Re: IE7 already overtook FireFox...

  • Subject: Re: IE7 already overtook FireFox...
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:13:25 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / Netscape
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__/ [ Linonut ] on Thursday 28 December 2006 16:18 \__

> After takin' a swig o' grog, Phil Da Lick! belched out this bit o' wisdom:
> 
>> OK wrote:
>>> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/December/browser.php
>>> 
>>> Not really a surprise...
>>
>> What's really surprising about that is that even with virtually enforced
>> download of IE7 that it still hasn't overtaken IE6.
> 
> Never trust a "counter" site that provides "accounts".  Not even a Linux
> site.
> 
>    http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/December/index.php
> 
>    Mon Dec 4 15:08:15 2006 - Thu Dec 28 10:58:00 2006   23.8 Days
> 
>    28129374 Visitors
>    49192 Visitors/hour
> 
> Now tell me that a site devoted to webmasters has 49000 human visitors
> per hour.
> 
>    http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/December/domain.php
> 
>    Domain Stats
> 
>    7. SWEDEN (.SE)         632574   (2%)
>    8. BRAZIL (.BR)         608997   (2%)
>    9. TURKEY (.TR)         595259   (2%)
>    10. AUSTRALIA (.AU)        299006   (1%)
>    11. Educational (.EDU)        275607   (0%)
>    12. UNITED STATES (.US)       235497   (0%)
> 
>    23. INDIA (.IN)         117758   (0%)
> 
> 
> Now tell me that Swedish government sites are more popular than US or
> India sites.
> 
> The OS stats are just as unbelievable.
> 
> The resolution stats?  You gotta be fscking kidding me!
> 
> This is the funniest one of all:
> 
>    http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/December/weekday.php
> 
>    Weekday Stats
> 
>    Sunday         2247795  (7%)
>    Monday         4339537  (15%)
>    Tuesday        6233347  (22%)
>    Wednesday         6079268  (21%)
>    Thursday       4142277  (14%)
>    Friday         2892307  (10%)
>    Saturday       2194843  (7%)
> 
> It adds up to 96%  (LOL!)

"Unknown" gets ignored (tossed way). That's GNU/Linux. I mentioned this in
the other post. If the stats add up to 100%, then something if fishy. In
busy sites, around 10% of the requests cannot be analysed or determinded
with confidence. Also ask yourself, /which/ Web sites are included in the
survey? Where are they from? What do they cover? What are their relative
sizes? If the same UIP comes up with different O/Ses (dual boot), how is it
counted? Is it being discarded?

You can build studies as such to prove /anything/. Fit your desired
conclusion/hypothesis to your data/method and you'll always be a winner. Are
your data instances representative of the entire available sample? What is
it that you gauge anyway? It's a black art which Microsoft masters.

There are over 100 million registered domains. Are my sites being counted at
all? In one of my sites, 44% of the visitors use Linux ("unknown" aside) and
only 9% use Internet Explorer.

Are we living under some illusion that extends beyond the installed
base/market share chokehold? Are there weapons of mass destruction?

-- 
                        ~~ Kind greetings and happy holidays!

Roy S. Schestowitz, Ph.D. Candidate (Medical Biophysics)
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