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Re: Microsoft vs Linux, Monopoly vs upstart

  • Subject: Re: Microsoft vs Linux, Monopoly vs upstart
  • From: Paul Bramscher <brams006_nospam@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:40:26 -0600
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
__/ [ mlw ] on Monday 25 December 2006 16:18 \__

ray wrote:

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:23:31 -0500, mlw wrote:

No monopoly has ever had 100 percent control, but has had "enough"
control limit or eliminate viable competition while dictating pricing.
That was the story with Standard Oil as well as Microsoft Corp.


Microsoft, despite conviction sentencing being reduced to nothing under the current corrupt administration, has been proved and convicted of using their monopoly position to reduce or eliminate competition.
I'm sure we'd have seen much better results under previous corrupt
administrations.
I get  kick out of clinton bashers, they accuse the administration of being
corrupt, but all they have ever done with the vast investigatory resources
of the U.S. government is to find that he had an affair with a consenting
adult and tried not to let that be public knowledge, like 75%~80% of all
other married men.

Clinton was a great president by all measures.

A well financed right-wing fringe kept hammering against Clinton, but for all the wrong reasons. Most everyone who comes to power, including the Clintons, should be help in some healthy suspicion. Who are their backers? Unless you're on the payroll of big energy, big bombs, big pharm, big insurance, a foreign country, etc. you'll most likely never make it to D.C.


But the fact that they nailed Clinton on a technicality (lying under oath) on something as trivial as a sexcapade, does tell us something: they had to reach exceedingly far, well into the realm of pettiness.

The current administration makes Clinton look like mother Teresa. I know many
people who have been missing the 90's for a very long time (and not only
because of the bubble).

Let aside the gas emissions, the broken treaty with the Russians and, more
recently, censorship in newspapers and scientific papers (on environmental
issues in particular... the oil tycoons have intere$t$ and impact). It's
worrisome and sad to see how rationale can be superceded by one person's
(with group pressure) goals. It's neither democracy nor (healthy)
capitalism. It sometimes seems like a perfectly self-controlling and
supervising system can evolve to adopt concepts from totalitarian nations.
The paraellels in the IT industry is, of course, gradual changes to the law
that's perceive as illegitimate. Changing civilisation. One goalpost at a
time...

I'm wondering if it'll ever be illegal to write your own code, compile your own programs, or run open source software in general.


This is a legitimate question to ask, since there are a number of parallels between the settling of the Americas and the settling of digital space. Early barons -- and people pushed aside -- for starters.

There was also this issue of the Commons in Europe and elsewhere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons).

Basically, it's a crime for people to hunt, fish, gather, etc. unless they purchase land -- or do so on publicly-owned property under certain guidelines. You can't just go out and dig up a tree in public space, and transplant it to your yard. Instead, you must do all of your rearrangement-of-matter in the economic grid or marketplace: it's perfectly fine to get a tree from a tree farm if you paid the asking price. It's a system built on conquest, and ensuring that most people are propertyless -- forced to work, and buy what they need from a wider marketplace, where leeches are there to skim off profit twice (first, by paying you less than what your labor is actually worth), and secondly by charging you more for the product than what it actually look to build it. I'd have no problem if the craftsman himself were earning the difference, but unless you're buying hand-made items in your local region, that's simply not the case.

Linux and the free software movement defies this economic-fascistic model in that there is no skimming, and no limit on the hunting/gathering of the digital space.

So I think it's a legitimate question to ask: when will the fascists make open source software and compiling your own code illegal? They basically did it in the bricks & mortar world.

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