"Rex Ballard" <rex.ballard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Oliver Wong wrote:
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > The Five Best and Worst Things About Vista
>> > ,----[ Quote ]
>> > | Like any new operating system, though, there are things you'll love
>> > | about it, and things you'll hate about it. Check out my list of five
>> > | things you'll love and five things you'll hate, and add to the list
>> > | by using the link at the bottom of the article.
>> > `----
> http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2006/12/19/the-five-best-and-worst-things-about-vista.html
>>
>> Hooray for balanced reporting.
>
> I'm not so sure it was all that balanced.
Why do you think that?
>
>> The good stuff was pretty much what I expected: Aero, networking,
>> security, etc. The bad stuff, on the other hand, surprised me:
>
> Aero
> You thought the eye candy on XP was "Fischer Price", memory hungry, and
> slow?
Actually, no, I didn't. It runs fine on my machine.
> Just wait until you get Aero! Too bad 32 bit processors can't access
> more than 2 Gig of memory, and Vista 64 can't run 32 bit XP
> applications.
FUD? Vista 64 can run 32 bit XP applications just fine. It's 16 bit
application support which is dropped, and 32 bit drivers.
> Because this thing is going to suck up memory and CPU
> cycles like no one's business.
Aero seems to work fine on my friend's computer, and his computer isn't
all that great, honestly.
>
> Networking
> Ubiqutous networking, kind of like Konqueror?
No, read the article, and see the screenshots. They're mainly praising
the administration GUI.
> Yet another example of
> Microsoft creating or buying or pirating a knock-off of some OSS code,
> then calling it a "Microsoft Innovation". The only thing that makes it
> an innovation is that Microsoft is shipping it as bundleware.
Interesting. I don't know of any OSS software that presents the
information in an manner that is as easy to understand as shown in the
screenshots of the article. Which distribution should I be looking at? Suse?
>
> Keep in mind that, if you like, you can unstall Cygwin, X11, the Qt
> libraries, and Konqueror and have the same thing - without selling your
> first born child to Microsoft for a cup of soup.
Really? Can you provide me with a step by step guide on installing all
this software so I can get that cool administration panel I see in the
screenshot?
[...]
>
> Wireless Networking
> Yes, this one aught to be very popular. Why pay for broadband when you
> can steal it from your neighbors. You should be really welcome at
> Starbucks. And of course, you can have everyone else grabbing your
> laptop as a free ride on someone elses network.
>
> And all that stuff you are sharing, they can share it too. Don't
> forget to share the letters to your mistress, and the letters from your
> wife, in the same share.
You're implying that if you shared your mistress and wife letters on
your Linux laptop, the Linux kernel's AI would somehow figure out this was a
mistake, and refuse to actually share it?
>
> Search
> Google desktop was so good that Microsoft decided that they HAD to
> steal it.
> Linux has had text search engines built in since 1994. The early
> versions used the WAIS search engine. Of course, parsing Word,
> Powerpoint, and Excel documents to capture the information needed for
> content based searches is all kinds of fun. ODF uses XML which can be
> searched and index using generic text tools.
Okay... so Linux, google, and whomever else had the feature first... And
this makes Vista less good, why? (This attitude is what I'm referring to
when I said there's too much obsession with "originality" or who came up
with a certain feature first).
>
> Security
> Based on the description, this isn't security, it's censorship. It's
> also anticompetitive by nature. If you aren't runing MICROSOFT'S
> software, you don't get to use the network.
I think you read a different description than I did. Perhaps you saw the
part about "Letting network administrators set up requirements that any PC
must meet before it can connect to the network" and assumed that "Nothing
required" wasn't an option?
[...]
>> Fewer Power User Features
>>
>> Microsoft has tried mightily to make Windows Vista easy to master for the
>> average user, but they've also made changes along the way that power
>> users
>> won't be happy about.
>
>> For example, in Windows XP, you were able to customize
>> to a remarkable degree what actions should be taken when you open or view
>> a
>> file;
>
> This is in direct defiance of the antitrust order. Microsoft had to
> delay release of Vista until the anticompetition clauses of the order
> had expired. They kept all of the focus on their defiance of the
> disclosure order, diverted the attention away from the blatent defiance
> of nearly every other aspect of settlement.
>
> This pretty much means the end of 3rd party software for Windows Vista
> users. Even if Microsoft doesn't maket it, the get to say whether you
> can use it. Goodby RealPlayer, QuickTime, Napster, MP3.
Is "MP3" an application that I hadn't heard of before? 'Cause I strongly
doubt the Media player bundled with Vista is going to be unable to play the
MP3 file format.
> Say goodbye
> to OpenOffice, FireFox, and Thunderbird or Lotus Notes. Oh sure, the
> 3rd party vendors will eventually figure out how to get around the
> barricades - if they think it's worth the bother. This makes OOS,
> Java, and multiplatform APIs look even more attractive. And if
> Microsoft doesn't want to play nice, Linux is going to be irresistable.
>
>> you can't do that any longer unless you dig extremely deep into the
>> Registry. Similarly, you used to have a great deal more control over
>> multiboot options than you do now.
So this paragraphs says that you can associate 3rd party software with
file types using the registry. Do you know how 3rd party software associates
itself with file types in XP?
They do it via the registry.
In other words, there is no "barricade" being erected against 3rd party
applications here. What's with the FUD, Rex?
>
> That pretty much clinches it for me. I want nothing to do with Vista
> at this point.
> Thank goodness it's not too late to get a Linux ready machine with XP.
Yes. I'm glad you have the freedom to choose the OS you prefer. However,
I wish you wouldn't try to spread lies about Vista. You may be unfairly
causing someone to dismiss Vista out of hand if they simply believe what you
say, and thus you are robbing that person of making a choice for him or
herself.
Please don't do that. Please be honest, so that everyone has the freedom
to choose the OS which is best for them.
- Oliver
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