On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:36:45 +0100, Mark Kent wrote:
> begin oe_protect.scr
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> __/ [ GreyCloud ] on Monday 05 June 2006 06:33 \__
>>
>>> Chirag Shukla wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 5. Ewik 'the Weasel' Funkenbusch [4] 79 111170
>>>>> 51% 6. flatfish - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 68 68465
>>>>> 54%
>>>>> DooFuS - LIAR / WINTROLL / RACIST 38 49153
>>>>> 61%
>>>>> 17. billwg - WINTROLL / LIAR LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 35 76954
>>>>> 68% 26. Flatfish Nyms - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 28 34394
>>>>> 61%
>>>>> linux-sux - WINTROLL 23 28658
>>>>> 77%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leaving off the aliases or person opinion in Statistics would help.
>>
>>
>> These labels make the group seem immature, hostile and unprofessional.
>>
>>
>>> Agreed. That's why I only read this forum once in a blue moon. The
>>> other Roy manages to post some news about Linux now and then, but not
>>> much advocacy goes on. The best form of advocacy is to have someone
>>> post some neat ways of getting things done from time to time... sort of
>>> like a 'Tip of the Day'. One can learn from that method.
>>
>>
>> Grey,
>>
>> If you look at a recent subsample of threads, you will see that the
>> most-replied to [News] items involve Microsoft in one way of another. I
>> can think of an explanation, but it's not something that will change.
>>
>> I often think about posting pure Linux material, but I don't think it
>> will have any takers. For that reason, I just blog about it. There, for
>> example, is something I posted half an hour ago:
>>
>> http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/06/05/i-love-kde/
>>
>> I don't know about COLA readers, but active COLA posters are unlikely to
>> show much interest in such item. I would love to be proven
>> wrong/otherwise.
>>
>>
> We have a lot of pure linux advocacy threads, but we also have a
> tremendous number of trolls who just, well, troll. flatty, billwg, ErikF,
> Tim Smith and many many others (including nyms, especially flatty's) come
> up on a regular basis with posts which typically attempt to attribute
> windows problems to linux, or directly attack linux (wrongly, in general),
> or just promote MS.
>
> Personally I continue to advocate the view that troll-feeding is a bad
> idea, and Roy C's stats do highlight those who do it, as well as
> highlighting the trolls. In the same way that your newspostings cause our
> trolls to complain, so do Roy's stats. The fact that both are complaining
> suggests to me that you're both doing the right thing.
I agree. I believe Roy Culley's stats showing who the trolls are, is ok.
Any casual lurker can then identify who the group's trolls are.
OTOH Roy Schestowitz's idea of leaving trolls out of the stats
altogether is equally acceptable IMHO, & should also give a 'newbie' a
clue.
> Grey's p*ssed off because Roy called him on deliberate misquoting, which
> by accepted netiquette rules, really isn't on.
I binned him some time back.
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