On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:05:48 -0500, arachnid wrote:
>
> I could have the wrong poster in mind here, but wasn't it flatfish who
> once admitted to pirating something?
Here we go again....
> Hmmm... off we go to Google....
>
> Here's a message form Peter Kohlman, June 3, 2002:
>
> "And when you are at it, prove that you did not pirate software from
> Mandrake and MS (WinXP)."
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> Here's one from Jerry Nash, June 3, 2002:
>
> Flatfish kept the illegal, stolen XP license obtained from
> a "friend":
>
> See message-id: <slrnaeaqjp.hd.mjcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Now we're getting somewhere. That message ID leads me to:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/62627a792e7ea054?hl=en
>
> This was posted by mcjr on May 17,2002. Apparently Flatfish had claimed
> somewhere else that "One of my clients added me to his corporate license
> because that is his firms OS of choice. I have a completely legal and
> free, at least to me, copy." The software at issue would appear to be
> Windows XP, and (having to read between some lines on various
> messages here) someone claimed that Flatfish installed it on his own
> personal system, not a company system as required by the corporate EULA.
> Flatfish claims it was a company system and he never said otherwise.
> Someone else says he's changed his story. I can't find his original
> message without more effort than it's worth, so who knows?
>
> part of mcjr's response:
>
> "If it was legal, then that was your employer not your client. It would
> be legal only when you are using the software so provided for the needs of
> that employer. If that was really a client, both of you are now libel for
> software piracy."
>
> A search for the obvious keywords turns up many vindictive threads on
> this topic but no new info. Also FWIW he discusses this a bit with DFS in
> a May 3rd thread entitled "OT: I'll take it off his hands".
>
> Ok, now lets pursue the Mandrake thing. Typing in "Flatfish Pirate
> Mandrake" yields all kinds of interesting discussions, but this one will
> do. I found a message where Peter Kohlmann had quoted Flatfish,
> including providing the message ID, but I can't find the message ID
> on Google. Possibly X-No-Archived by Flatfish?
>
> Anyway, here's the full message that was quoted by someone. I
> forgot to grab the message ID but it shouldn't be too hard to find
> using one of the strings in the message:
> =============================================================
> Path:news.t-online.com!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!west.cox.net!cox.net!newsfeeds-atl1.usenetserver.com!news.webusenet.com!pc01.webusenet.com!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
> From: flatfish...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
> Subject: Re: A typical example of why linux is a PITA Reply-To:
> flatf...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <04jqmugnimrgghuult8v6bvpjreb4t5...@xxxxxxx> References:
> <pan.2002.08.27.19.10.16.852441.1...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <akh3bm$bjv$1$830fa...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <akh3fo$j2$0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <q65omu0f4ceb7mdlt7eqmcjfrugjobn...@xxxxxxx>
> <akic0r$j4r$0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <ekgpmuom5d7265koi8rlrr9c34ba6d8...@xxxxxxx>
> <akih8t$d9l$0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <o9opmukjeavmjbpjer3mpt0aoug9j5o...@xxxxxxx>
> <pan.2002.08.28.19.41.50.518...@xxxxxxxxxxx> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent
> 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Lines: 31
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:24:07 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.187.60.22
> X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1030573412 24.187.60.22 (Wed, 28 Aug 2002
> 18:23:32 EDT)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:23:32 EDT Organization: Optimum
> Online
> Xref: news.t-online.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:716951
>
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:41:51 -0400, "rapskat" <raps...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>Error Log for Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:42:17 +0000: segfault in module
>>"flatfish++" - dump details are as follows...
>
>>> How can you steal something that is free?
>
>>By purchasing it, copying it, distributing it to your buddies, then
>>returning it to the store for a refund.
>
> I admitted doing that with Mandrake 7.x a long time ago.
> It was wrong, I admitted it, but nothing was lost because none of the
> 4 people kept it on their systems long enough.
>
> My intention from the start was not to do that, it just kind of
> happened because that version of MD was terrible and I decided to see
> what would happen if I tried to return it.
>
> Unfortunately, it was after I gave away 4 or 5 copies for people to
> try and I didn't give it much thought.
> I was really surprised that they took it back, no questions asked and
> that was my focus at the time.
>
> I'll bet I have more boxed versions of various Linux distros than most
> people in this group so Linux in general has made a lot of money from
> me over the years.
>
> More so than Billy Gates has in fact.
> ==================================================================
>
> Looks like broiled flounder for dinner. :o)
The difference between me and Roy is that Roy's arrogance prohibits him
from admitting he is wrong.
But, as usual the Linux loonies will harp on it forever, yet they seem to
condone what Roy is doing.
Pretty sad.
--
flatfish+++
"Why do they call it a flatfish?"
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