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Re: protecting email addresses from bots gathering them for spam senders

  • Subject: Re: protecting email addresses from bots gathering them for spam senders
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 13:22:09 +0100
  • Newsgroups: alt.www.webmaster
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [ Karl Groves ] on Tuesday 02 May 2006 13:07 \__

> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> news:SMudnf21KvEe18rZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx:
>> Karl Groves wrote:
>>> "Brian Cryer" <brianc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>> news:CKqdnXnH4cm4h8rZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx:
>>>>"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>__/ [ Helen Martin ] on Tuesday 02 May 2006 07:05 \__
>>>>>>I've seen sites where people do things like write their email
>>>>>>address as
>>>>>>hrmartin at uniserve dot com
>>>>>>I assume, to protect them from the spiders that gether addresses
>>>>>>for the spammers..  I have several mailto: links on my site but I
>>>>>>don't really want those addresses to start getting hundreds of
>>>>>>offering for organ enlargement medications..
>>>>>>I'm wondering what other options I have to protect the addys...
>>>>>>and how serious a concern it is..
>>>>>You are advised to use a contact form, which hides your address in
>>>>>some code
>>>>>that's only visible on the server. There are many such contact
>>>>>forms. Just select one...
>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>Be aware that a contact form isn't immune to spam. I have one on my
>>>>website and now get 20+ spams a day via it. At least they are all
>>>>obvious spams ...

Yes, I'm aware. Several months ago, a fellow blogger took off the contact
form because he argued it begged for SPAM. Others have had different

>>>>Just to make it clear, I'm not saying a contact form is a bad idea. I
>>>>think its one of the better ideas I've seen. I get the impression
>>>>that for some reason my site attracts a lot of spam and that most
>>>>people don't get this problem or not to the same extent.

Look at this another way. Even when a Web form (if properly built, unlike
mine) is used, the E-mail address cannot be extracted from it and then be
passed from one spammer to another using CD's/Internet. If the spammer bangs
on the script time after time, the form can be relocated (URL-wise).

>>> A properly coded contact form IS immune to spam.
>> Not completely.  You can implement captcha and all kinds of other
>> things, but you can't stop people from posting spam manually.  It's a
>> never-ending fight.

Yes, and the crackers' tools are propagated from one spammer to another. It's
called re-use.  They could probably start their own library/repository, e.g.

> True. If some spammer really wants to, he can go ahead and type his
> message in manually and go through all that.  At that point, I'd probably
> actually read the message, just to see what kind of moron would spend so
> much time on one message.

The least you can do is slow them down and deter misude. Spammers are lazy.
They go for easy prey.

Best wishes,


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