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Re: Another piece of OSS to make life easier

  • Subject: Re: Another piece of OSS to make life easier
  • From: "[H]omer" <spam@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:06:57 +0100
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On 15/05/2006 05:16, Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
> __/ [ [H]omer ] on Sunday 14 May 2006 21:05 \__
>> On 14/05/2006 19:59, rapskat spake thusly:

>>> I found this nifty bit of software called kinstaller

>> Note however, that it doesn't create resource trackable packages 
>> like RPM. I used to use CheckInstall, which *does* create RPMs from
>> tarballs, but since starting with Fedora, I find it just as easy
>> to create spec files and package the applications myself.

>> I'd still recommend CheckInstall for ordinary users, however, since
>> having loose-canon binaries on your system, will make maintenance
>> difficult.

> Very  true, [H]omer. I always enjoy reading your insight on such 
> matters. Sticking  to  the point, what I _personally_ tend to do, for
> the  sake  of maintenance,  as well as ease in migration, is store 
> source and/or package in  my  home  directory.

Well I'm a Fedora guy and very security conscious. FC4 and 5 implement
SELinux, which I always run in *strict* mode. Administering policies for
binaries in users' $HOME directories would be a nightmare, and IMHO,
with or without SELinux, and inherent security risk.

Certainly there would be little need for resource and dependency
tracking, particularly if the binaries were static, but even in a closed
system with only one user, I just don't like the idea, and AFAICT it is
definitely *not* FHS compliant, something about which I am a bit pedantic:


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