__/ [ yttrx ] on Monday 13 November 2006 19:46 \__
> BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> yttrx wrote:
>>
>>> BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoted for its value:
>>>>>
>>>>> Samba Team Asks Novell to Reconsider
>>>>>
>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>> | The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell
>>>>> | on November 2nd.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software
>>>>> | world and the free software world is that the proprietary software
>>>>> | world divides users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing
>>>>> | agreements which restrict their rights to share with each other,
>>>>> | whereas the free software world encourages users to unite and share
>>>>> | the benefits of the software.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a
>>>>> | divisive agreement. It deals with users and creators of free
>>>>> | software differently depending on their "commercial" versus
>>>>> | "non-commercial" status, and deals with them differently depending
>>>>> | on whether they obtained their free software directly from Novell
>>>>> | or from someone else.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for
>>>>> | no such distinctions.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd
>>>>> | software must stand together in the fight against software patents.
>>>>> | Only by standing together do we stand a chance of defending against
>>>>> | the peril represented by software patents. With this agreement
>>>>> | Novelli s attempting to destroy that unified defense, exchanging the
>>>>> | long term interests of the entire Free Software community for a short
>>>>> | term advantage for Novell over their competitors.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the
>>>>> | relationship that they have with the Free Software community. We
>>>>> | are, in essence, their suppliers, and Novell should know that they
>>>>> | have no right to make self serving deals on behalf of others which
>>>>> | run contrary to the goals and ideals of the Free Software community.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is
>>>>> | not acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates,
>>>>> | discussions and conferences on the topic knew this to be the case.
>>>>> | We call upon Novell to work with the Software Freedom Law Center to
>>>>> | undo the patent agreement and acknowledge its obligations as a
>>>>> | beneficiary of the Free Software community.
>>>>> `----
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.samba.org/announcements/team_to_novell/
>>>>
>>>> Samba could withdraw the license for Novell to use samba. That would
>>>> bugger things up a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I can understand samba being worried, but actually Samba have gone,
>>>> imho, too far past the basic file/printer sharing idea. They are taking
>>>> some of the secure aspects of communications and email handling away
>>>> from the Linux, but also for each service their provide the user has
>>>> another level between them and their goal, taking into account that
>>>> every service that is exposed via Samba is already available on your
>>>> Linux.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Secure aspects of communications and email handling? You don't know what
>>> the fuck you're talking about. Samba is now and always was about Unix
>>> and Unix-like operating systems interpolating with windows operating
>>> systems on networks more easily.
>>>
>>> Today, that means:
>>>
>>> file and printer sharing
>>> active directory authentication
>>>
>>> In short, it is about a free implementation of the SMB/CIFS networking
>>> protocols, and thats it, period, end of story.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Wrong peabrain, you haven't copied the full list, I suspect you don't
>> really know Samba nor did you bother with anything other than the first
>> page of their home page, which is where you copied your text from.
>>
>>
>
> Where I copied my text from? How about this, you fucking worthless goddamn
> retard:
>
> QUOTE EXACTLY WHERE I COPIED FROM, AND SUPPLY A URL.
>
> Otherwise, youre just a lying sack of shit.
>
> Also, I've set up Samba installations that would confuse you to fucking
> tears, bitch. I've written smb.conf files from memory for YEARS.
>
> Seriously, you dont know shit about computers or linux. Maybe you should
> go somewhere else and learn a little bit first, then come back.
Dude, please calm down.
You are pissing all over the newsgroups (and UseNet) when you use language
like that. You're only serving the trolls here by hurting the credential of
what's said here. It also drives people away. Remember that it's not Linux
advocates in the Linux advocacy newsgroup that deserve mistreatment for
deliberate trolling for a paycheck. Vent your anger at Erik and his
colleagues from Redmond. They get paid (compensated) for the insults.
Best wishes,
Roy
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