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CEOs: Anlysts Like IDC and Gartner Are Jokes, Microsoft Puppets, Anti-Linux

  • Subject: CEOs: Anlysts Like IDC and Gartner Are Jokes, Microsoft Puppets, Anti-Linux
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:14:18 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
>From the new podcast, around 40 minutes into the session:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/07/open_season_seven/

Some of the points made are truly stunning! I took notes while listening.

About Gartner: Bill Gates and Larry Ellison invest in them... Ballmer picks up
the phone "shooting at them"... "IDC is the absolute worst"... they "can't
believe they get paid for that stuff"... if only there was no conflict of
interest...  they must deal only with  the figures their clients give them...
you have to wonder who is paying the bills... you have to wonder out loud...
no conspiracy theory... Microsoft demands that analysts will only count Linux
if there's a shipment (payment) attached to it... there's no information out
there about Linux usage... they phoned Gartner and the analysts would only
talk about money... $7.5 billion for the Linux PC market is estimated...
working by Microsoft's definitions.

Microsoft controls information. "they [analysts] get forcefed"... Nobody
actually tracks Linux usage at the moment...



You've got to listen to it. Big fraud all over this "analyst" business...
especially a case against Linux....


I've also just realised that IDG (major press company) is owned by IDC. No
wonder the press is biased, but we already knew about the Gates Foundation
buying the press....


Related:

[On Microsoft 'buying' analysts and shills:]

http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf


Is Linux really losing market share to Windows?

,----[ Quote ]
| Should we be ready, as Kent Brockman might put it, to "welcome our new 
| Microsoft overlords," or are the IDC Quarterly Server Tracker figures not 
| really reflecting the reality of how servers are used in businesses? I, for 
| one, think that what IDC is measuring and what server operating systems 
| people are really using are two entirely different things.    
`----

http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8060720094.html


Microsoft's Sponsored OOXML Study

,----[ Quote ]
| Today, Microsoft made available an IDC study about so-called open desktop 
| file formats. It's yet another Microsoft propaganda effort, as a crucial 
| format standards vote approaches.  
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/business_applications/microsofts_sponsored_ooxml_study.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/2tx9eo


Dell Won't Preinstall Ubuntu Linux On Small-Business Computers

,----[ Quote ]
| Dell's refusal to sell Ubuntu machines to small businesses makes sense, 
| because those customers typically want PCs that let them get to work right 
| away. "It makes sense because the assumption is they want everything to work 
| right out of the box," Richard Shim, analyst for IDC, said. "With something 
| like Ubuntu, it's going to require some tinkering."    
`----

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=200000030

And they ended up with an egg in the face. Dell delivers to SMBs now


IDC pronounces Linux unimportant to European economy [in Microsoft-commissioned
study]

,----[ Quote ]
| A recent IDC white paper on the economic impact of Microsoft's super
| soaraway new Vista operating system seems to be lacking one crucial
| ingredient -- other operating systems.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34542 


NY Times bans Microsoft analysts from Microsoft stories

,----[ Quote ]
| Part of the problem stems from the reticence of companies such as
| IDC and Gartner to reveal their clients. That should make everyone
| nervous, but it doesn't. So called objective technology publications
| keep publishing material bought by vendors without telling you this.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/15/nytimes_ms_ban/


Has IDC got the wrong number for iPhone? 

,----[ Quote ]
| IDC has poured cold water on Apple's iPhone just days after a previous survey 
| led M:Metrics to talk up the new entry to the cellphone stakes. But are the 
| new numbers sound?   
|
| [...]
|
| The most obvious difference is in the sample size. M:Metrics had 
| 11,060 respondents, IDC just 456. The sample space was also different, 
| with M:Metrics apparently sampling from mobile phone subscribers, while 
| IDC looked at online mobile phone shoppers.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13036&Itemid=1054


IDC Study:

,----[ Quotes with annotation ]
| "(Microsoft manager:) I don't like the fact that the report show us losing
| on TCO on webservers. I don't like the fact that the report show us losing
| on availability (windows was down more than linux). And I don't like the
| fact that the reports says nothing new is coming with windows .net server."
|
| [...]
|
| "I don't like it to be public on the doc that we sponsored it because I
| don't think the outcome is as favorable as we had hoped. I just don't like
| competitors using it as ammo against us. It is easier if it doesn't mention
| that we sponsored it."
`----

http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/9000/PX09695.pdf


Vista filip for US states, claims IDC

,----[ Quote ]
| While reviewers debate the merits of Windows Vista and analysts puzzle the 
| over the pace of adoption, IDC and Microsoft are in little doubt over its 
| impact for the economies of America's 50 states.
| 
| To date, IDC has estimated Windows Vista will create 37,000 new jobs and 
| generate $15.5bn in related products and services across just four US 
| states.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/24/microsoft_windows_vista_idc/


IDC report on Open Document Standards

,----[ Quote ]
| This study is a fact-based analysis of the emerging open document
| standards, Open XML and ODF.
`----

http://openxmldeveloper.org/archive/2006/11/27/IDC_Open_Document_Standards.aspx


Vista launch to add 100,000 Europe IT jobs: study

,----[ Quote ]
| The study, conducted by research firm IDC and commissioned by Microsoft,
| said Windows Vista will be installed on over 30 million personal computers
| in Denmark, France, Germany, Poland, Spain and United Kingdom within the
| first year of shipment.
`----

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060914/tc_nm/microsoft_study_dc


Shill season

,----[ Quote ]
| It's often difficult to figure out the motivation behind a particular
| study - until one finds out who has commissioned and paid for it.
| The so-called tech consulting companies would love it if the consumer
| believes that they have conducted an "independent" study. The worrying
| thing is that not many people blow their cover.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8109/1090/


Microsoft Press Releases: Read Between the Lines

,----[ Quote ]
| We have a game we play around the office here with Microsoft press
| releases. The game is called Find the words that make the headline
| true. It's not always easy.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Our point: Microsoft has a long history of using press releases top
| romote their product momentum in shall we say interesting ways,
| using words like "fastest growing" (meaning, the number we started
| with was really really small) to redefining words such as "sold."
| It's not good marketing practice. Why? Because once consumers and
| press people figure out you are playing lawyer, they stop believing
| you and your brand. And that's more likely to do you harm than good.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/061211/22190_id.html?.v=1


NY Times bans Microsoft analysts from Microsoft stories

,----[ Quote ]
| Just days after banning Enderle from discussing Microsoft because
| he has Microsoft as a client, the Times quoted Gartner analyst
| Michael Silver and AMR Research analyst Jim Murphy in a story
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| about Microsoft's Windows and Office software.
|
| If the paper would prefer not to quote an analyst who has
| experience with a client, it did a poor job. Silver is Gartner's
|                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| vice president in charge of client computing. Microsoft happens to
|                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| do lots of business with Gartner and also happens to have a
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| client-software monopoly. We're guessing that Silver knows
| Microsoft's products well and has direct involvement with the
| company.
|
| And, sure enough, he appears a number of times on Microsoft's
| own site and thousands of times in stories about Microsoft.
|
| Jim Murphy - wait for it - covers Microsoft too and is even more
| prolific than Silver.
|
| [...]
|
| Part of the problem stems from the reticence of companies such as
| IDC and Gartner to reveal their clients. That should make everyone
| nervous, but it doesn't. So called objective technology publications
| keep publishing material bought by vendors without telling you this.
| They're also too lazy or scared to ignore the likes of Gartner and
| IDC until the firms change their disclosure rules.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/15/nytimes_ms_ban/


Yesterday:

Buy Vista or die

,----[ Quote ]
| Gartner research vice president Michael Silver said that outfits have delayed 
|                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| their Vista migrations to the point of stupidity and now some are considering 
| late 2008 or even 2009, while others mull skipping the OS completely.  
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/07/vista-die

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