In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
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on Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:27:07 +0000
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> ____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Friday 07 December 2007 20:42 : \____
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>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
>> <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote
>> on Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:44:53 +0000
>> <3337236.tqpa8AJY9x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> ____/ Mark Kent on Friday 07 December 2007 14:36 : \____
>>>
>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>> Gutsy Gibbon versus Vista Ultimate
>>>>>
>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>| Thanks to using the Moomex themes for both Compiz and Gnome, I haven?t
>>>>>| lost any eye candy either; its appearance is just as high tech and
>>>>>| elegant as that of Vista. The other new installation I?ve made was to put
>>>>>| on the Swiftweasel Browser. This has proven to be incredibly fast - far
>>>>>| outstripping Firefox on Vista.
>>>>> `----
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.linuxextremist.com/?p=115
>>>>
>>>> The sad thing is that people are paying for Vista in order to remove it.
>>>
>>> Vista may be the umbilical cord of computing.
>>>
>>
>> Well, considering that (AFAICT, since I'm not an expert
>> in neonatal development) the baby is born once it starts
>> to run out of oxygen (it basically becomes too big for the
>> life support system, starts to generate certain chemicals
>> that say to Mommy "I want OUT!", and Mommy expels it), one
>> has to wonder when Microsoft will be unable to deliver.
>>
>> So far, Microsoft has delivered -- or, more precisely,
>> Microsoft has yet to fail to deliver, in the mind of the
>> computing public; they delivered Vista and that's more
>> or less it (beyond a few souls who actually look at the
>> details of the product on the computer, and not just the
>> pretty box it comes in or the shiny disk that goes in).
>>
>> In other words, Microsoft's Vista bombed and no one thus
>> far has noticed beyond a grumbling in the streets...is that
>> grumbling enough to cause the majority to switch?
>>
>> I wonder.
>>
>> There's also the DirectX10 fiasco, in which someone in
>> Marketing (dunno if it's Microsoft, or someone else at
>> this point) out and out *lied* to us regarding graphics
>> capability. One can and should, of course, euphemize
>> this a bit, and DirectX 10 does apparently bring some
>> improvements, most noticeably in the area of smoke
>> generation/clipping, given what I've seen while Googling
>> thus far. However, that's not quite what was portrayed
>> in the ad; among other things, one can see whitecaps.
>> Allegedly.
>
>
> Read the following recent article:
>
> Microsoft, Flight Simulator developers use images to paint misleading picture
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | We received this set of screenshots ages ago from Microsoft itself, which
> | used this game heavily to promote the beauty of DX10 and how necessary is to
> | switch from Windows XP to Vista. These two screenshots ended in quite a lot
> | of mainstream magazines, and were all over the place in specialist IT media.
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | Nobody buys explanations about why Flight Simulator runs so slowly on
> | quad-core processors and most powerful graphics cards, as we concluded in our
> | review.
> |
> | FSX is rendering practically everything, forget about any modern 3D feature
> | such as Occlussion Culling, Occlusion Querry and Z-buffer compression and
> | putting a bitmap cockpit on blanked alpha texture, while everything else is
> | being rendered.
> |
> | This procedure just kills performance and we could not imagine any game past
> | DX7 utilizing such a concept.
> |
> | We cannot avoid the thought that this plot might have been done deliberately,
> | in order to spark interest about the game itself and boost sales of a product
> | that usually has a limited customer base.
> `----
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/26/flight-simulator-developer
Yep, that was it. Nice picture. Too bad it doesn't
reflect reality; I'm not even sure reality will reflect
the mountain in that fashion anyway. (We work over a
lagoon/fountain. The lights -- it's dark now, but the
fountain is still operating -- scatter over a considerable
angular distance.)
>
> I said this about a year ago, but Microsoft produced just a small set of images
> for press purposes. These accentuated the differences in all sorts of
> unnatural ways. These were just promotional tools, like those gals and guys in
> the "buy today and get one _absolutely_ free" adverts for some 'ab crunching'
> gym equipment.
>
> Other articles and benchmarks that are older:
>
> Vista Offers Nothing to Gamers
>
> http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/01/vista_offers_nothing_to_gamers_uk/index.html
Lost article. No doubt Tom's Hardware reorganized or something.
>
> Crysis DX10 Fraud Exposed - DX9 to DX10 Patch
>
> http://haleyshothouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5159
Shades of the NT Workstation/NT Server patch. Also, another
illustration of "The Internet interprets censorship as damage
and routes around it". Ha!
>
> DX9 and DX10 performance compared
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41958
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/page4.asp
is interesting, but only where the couch and fog are
involved. The shadow sharpening is also interesting.
The rest....I'd be hard pressed to tell the diff.
>
> Inside CNET Labs: Lamenting DirectX 10
>
> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9750536-1.html
We compared the same title [not sure which titles
they're referring to] side by side on a system running
DX10 on Vista to the same title on an identical system
running DX9 on XP, and it's difficult--sometimes
impossible--to detect significant differences in how
the games look or perform.
Hype hype hype hype lovely hype, wonderful hype....
>
> Adding DX10 has "done nothing"
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41043
Hmm...now where have I heard this before? Oh yeah,
Microsoft Windows needs more horsepower to deliver.
>
> Hacked DX10 for Windows appears
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39095
This report is slightly confusing, as it states "Cody
Brocious ... claims to have started to create a wrapper
for Windows executablews so that they can be ran [sic]
on another operating system, with no prejudice about that
operating system". Does this include:
- Windows XP?
- Windows Me?
- Linux?
- FreeBSD?
- Solaris/x86?
- Solaris/SPARC??
- HP/UX?!?
Ow, my brain. Mind you, typical Microsoft stunt: protect
their crap by putting a cheap, easily-defeated lock
somewhere else.
>
> Valve questions Microsoft's commitment to PC gaming
>
> http://tomshardware.co.uk/2007/03/12/valve_questions_microsofts_commitment/
This article's wandered off as well.
>
>
>> Of course now I can't find the dratted picture. Google is
>> such a pain at times, and its Image scanner shows me a
>> picture of two young women (among many other unrelated
>> flotsam and jetsam) when I search for "Microsoft DirectX
>> 10 graphics deceptive advert". (They are holding what
>> Microsoft says is 'the first Xbox 360 games console in
>> Ireland', and are identified as models Glenda Gilson
>> and Roberta Rowat in the blog. The deception might be
>> whether they're holding an actual Xbox or just a colorful
>> candy-coated shell, but that's not what I was looking for,
>> pretty as those two are...)
>
> I can't imagine searching the Web for USENET messages (the Web browser is 7
> virtual desktops 'away'), but I think the images will appear in some of the
> articles cited above. There's one with a forest and one with a lake. It's the
> equivalent of those 'sexy' photos that you have of a MacDonald's hamburger.
> Sadly, it never looks quite so good coming off the steamer in a
> production-line 'sweatshop'. One good shot can change perception.
True. And yes, they are included in the flight-simulator-developer
link.
>
>> Of course, someone was bound to notice eventually, and file
>> a lawsuit over "Windows Vista Capable" being confused with
>> the implication "can run Aero in all of its gorgeousness",
>> and apparently intentionally so.
>>
>> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/03/183251
>> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/310004_msftsued03.html?source=rss
>
> Yes, it's nice to see that Microsoft is receiving some taste
> of justice. A class action was needed to be able to just face
> Microsoft in court (affording to keep up with very deep pockets,
> unlike SCO's).
It's been a long road. I doubt we're at the end of it, either.
Still, the journey of a thousand miles and all that... :-)
>
>> I wasn't looking for this specifically either, but kudos and
>> good luck to the filers for noticing. :-)
>
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