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[News] Dell Urged to Unbundle PCs (or Give the Option)

  • Subject: [News] Dell Urged to Unbundle PCs (or Give the Option)
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:02:11 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
[at the very top of IdeaStorm:]

Dell: Some of us would really like the configuration OPTION of being able to 
get any computer with NO operating system preinstalled - Just a blank hard 
disk.  

,----[ Quote ] 
| This is a duplicate idea, but it's a good one, since the original is now lost 
| in the middle of IdeaStorm somewhere, and it hasn't yet been dignified with a 
| proper response by Dell, despite it being the sixth most popular idea on all 
| IdeaStorm with a score of nearly 74,000.   
`----

http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/74964/Dell_Some_of_us_would_really_like_the_configuration_OPTION_of_being_able_to_get_any_computer_with_NO_operating_system_preinstalled__Just_a_blank_hard_disk
http://tinyurl.com/2ee239

The scam where people are forced to buy spyware. Kickbacks replace consumer
choice.

Another very popular idea at the moment: offer Linux on every single PC you
sell.


Related:

Why the Unbundling Windows Sceptics are Wrong

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has introduced a number of measures in recent versions of Windows 
| which are designed to stop piracy of Windows. In effect, they have provided 
| their own answer to this question.  
`----

http://www.cybersource.com.au/users/conz/why_the_unbundling_windows_sceptics_are_wrong.html


Users split over naked PCs

,----[ Quote ]
| The high cost to business of having Windows pre-installed on PCs was 
| certainly an issue for ZDNet.co.uk's sister site silicon.com's CIO Jury. 
| Three-quarters of the jury backed calls for naked PCs, not only to foster 
| diversity in operating systems but also to bring down costs.   
| 
| On the business side, several reader comments point to the fact many 
| companies do not use pre-installed operating systems but rather choose to 
| install a "standard image" on each machine. By starting from a naked PC, 
| businesses would at least save time (due to not having to delete the existing 
| installation), if not cash too, they said.    
`----

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39289744,00.htm?r=2


Are 'naked PCs' good for businesses?

,----[ Quote ]
| Three-quarters of silicon.com's 12-strong CIO Jury IT director panel have now 
| backed that call for naked PCs, although the argument is far from 
| straightforward.  
`----

http://news.zdnet.com/2424-9595_22-167353.html


Unbundling Microsoft Windows

,----[ Quote ]
| Computers in the European Union should be sold without a bundled operating 
| system, according to this submission to the European Commission. It says that 
| the bundling of Microsoft Windows with computers is not in the public 
| interest, and prevents meaningful competition in the operating system market.   
`----

http://www.globalisation.eu/briefings/competition-policy/unbundling-microsoft-windows-200709231241/


Free-market think tank urges EU to unbundle Windows

,----[ Quote ]
| The Globalisation Institute, a European think-tank run by free market 
| advocates, today went on the offensive against Microsoft, calling on the EU 
| to require all PCs to be sold without operating systems.  
`----

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/09/24/globalisation_institute_windows_bundling/


French consumer group attacks PC software bundling

,----[ Quote ]
| UFC-Que Choisir legal officer Sandra Wouhling said current
| practice effectively forced ordinary consumers to buy computers
| using Microsoft operating systems whereas companies anda
| dministrations were offered a real choice.
`----

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20061214:MTFH94365_2006-12-14_14-49-22_L14537403&type=comktNews&rpc=44
http://tinyurl.com/yf7kfu


Jury Hears Microsoft Competition Suit

,----[ Quote ]
| A judge on Friday told jurors they must accept as fact that a
| federal court found in 1999 that Microsoft holds a monopoly over
| computer operating systems and that it restricted computer
| manufacturers' ability to use competing systems.
| 
| [...]
| 
| She said she'll show that the company used its monopoly power
| to exclude competition and control prices and that it conspired with
| other companies to restrain trade, maintaining what she called a
| chokehold on software competitors and computer manufacturers.
| 
| "It isn't illegal to be successful," Conlin said in opening
| remarks. "We applaud that. ... But you can't freeze out competitors
| and punish and retaliate against people who cooperate with
| competitors. Microsoft did all that and more."
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061201/microsoft_trial.html?.v=1


Microsoft, Intel and Dell: The Tech Love Triangle 

,----[ Quote ]
| It is becoming well known that Microsoft have achieved their current market 
| share status by making major computer manufacturers sign licensing deals, so 
| as to distribute a copy of Windows with every computer sold. What many people 
| don't realise, is how difficult it is to get a computer from the 
| manufacturers without Windows.    
| 
| [...]
| 
| This is first-hand experience of the power of Microsoft's monopolistic 
| practices, and it really does annoy me. It seems not so long ago that I 
| praised Dell for their support, but along with Microsoft, they have now lost 
| a customer entirely.   
| 
| Needless to say, we are now looking to buy a system from a local shop with no 
| OS. 
`----

http://blog.raisingwaves.com/index.php?entry=entry071120-003039


http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02663.pdf


Investors sue Dell on payments from Intel: WSJ

,----[ Quote ]
| An investor lawsuit seeking class-action status accuses Dell Inc. of
| improper accounting in its relationship with chip giant Intel,
| according to a media report published Thursday evening.
| 
| [...]
| 
| The suit alleges that Dell received at times as much as $1 billion
| a year in "secret and likely illegal" kickbacks in the form of
| "e-Cap" or "exception to corporate average pricing" payments"
| from Intel to ensure that Dell used no other chip supplier,
| according to The Journal.
`----

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-sue-dell-payments-intel/story.aspx?guid=%7B400315B0%2DE375%2D4920%2DB300%2D784220BEFE35%7D&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo


At Dell, Windows XP Home is $19 less than worthless

,----[ Quote ]
| Latitude D520N Duo (with FreeDOS): $984
| 
| Latitude D520 Dual Core (with Windows XP Home Edition SP2): $965
`----

http://danpritchard.com/blog/2007/02/21/dell-winxphome-19-less-than-worthless/


Microsoft Shuts Down Linux 10 Years Ago Says Iowa Attorne

,----[ Quote ]
| Going back now to as early as 1998, Microsoft starts to realize that
| Linux might pose a possible threat, and Vinod Valloppillil, who is
| a program manager at Microsoft, is asked by Mr. Allchin, Jim Allchin,
| to analyze potential strategies for combatting open-source software,
| and specifically Linux.
| His memos are leaked to the press in April -- I beg your pardon --
| in October of 1998 and become known as the Halloween documents.
| And the evidence will be that Microsoft uses its influence in the
| OEM channel, the computer manufacture channel, to make sure that
| end users have a difficult time buying PCs with Linux preinstalled.
`----

http://www.linuxelectrons.com/News/RoundUp/Microsoft_Shuts_Down_Linux_10_Years_Ago_Says_Iowa_Attorney


Microsoft's Dirty OEM-Secret

,----[ Quote ]
| They are, in short the secret to Microsoft's success. And the word
| secret is to be taken quite literally: No OEM may talk about the
| contents of his contract, or he will lose his license, and (assumption)
| likely be sued for breach of contract as well.
`----

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/23/13219/110


Jury Hears Microsoft Competition Suit

,----[ Quote ]
| A judge on Friday told jurors they must accept as fact that a
| federal court found in 1999 that Microsoft holds a monopoly over
| computer operating systems and that it restricted computer
| manufacturers' ability to use competing systems.
|
| [...]
|
| She said she'll show that the company used its monopoly power
| to exclude competition and control prices and that it conspired with
| other companies to restrain trade, maintaining what she called a
| chokehold on software competitors and computer manufacturers.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061201/microsoft_trial.html?.v=1


Did Microsoft want to 'whack' Dell over its Linux dealings?

http://news.com.com/Did+Microsoft+want+to+whack+Dell+over+its+Linux+dealings/2100-1014_3-6153904.html


Dell's secret Linux fling [sabotaged by Microsoft]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/09/dell_linux_china/


Microsoft 'killed Dell Linux' - States

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03/19/microsoft_killed_dell_linux_states/

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