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[News] Prediction: Microsoft War Against Open Formats Bound to Fail

  • Subject: [News] Prediction: Microsoft War Against Open Formats Bound to Fail
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:18:19 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
War is on: BRM without Benjamin

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| And here comes the problem: People can be very sympathetic 
| towards Microsoft and their products or just to the persons who evangelize 
| their formats. But they cannot deny the obvious: that OOXML is a spec that 
| should not have been submitted under fast-track. If someone like Brian takes 
| part in the dirty campaign to rush it through anyway he needs to keep in mind 
| that it is not a good way to make friends or gather sympathy. Probably it is 
| a well-paid business as is corps washing and hangman business. Sorry, no one 
| has the right to get an ISO stamp for a broken specification.         
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-31832/war-is-on:brm-without-benjamin

Bound to fail at the end, apparently.

Predictions for 2008: Sharepoint will disappoint, Google will seek omnipotence

,----[ Quote ]
| Google seeks to lock-in customers through sheer size of its data repository. 
| Sharepoint through proprietary formats blocking exit from its repository. 
| Neither is particularly appetizing for customers.  
`----

http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9835259-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad


Related:

Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format

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| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above 
| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less 
| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with comments) 
| and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted half (CPI 
| index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46% voted for 
| disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.      
`----

http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html


Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling 

,----[ Quote ]
| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These 
| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan, 
| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to think 
| that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets pushed 
| through.    
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106


Battle for the transparency       

,----[ Quote ]
| It's been a while now, and I'm still trying to enforce HZN (Croatian national 
| standards body, or CSI) to disclose the information on members of their TC 
| that voted unconditional yes for Microsoft OOXML. (more about that on 
| Croatian blog Fuzzy on www.linux.hr)   
| It's no more about OOXML. It's about transparency, about my right to know who 
| are the people that declare standards, and about my right to hold them 
| responsible for their actions.  
| They're stubborn. So am I. I have reached the point where the only sensible 
| thing to do is to - sue them. Which is what I'm set up to. 
`----

http://www.oddparity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=99999999


,----[ Quote ]
| Just yesterday I was sitting in the relevant meeting of SNV/UK14
| (http://www.snv.ch/), that decides how Switzerland will vote. The
| chairman (Hans-Rudolf Thomann) explained the following rules:
| 
| - we are here to create standards, not to reject them
| - if we reach consensus (>=75%) to vote for Microsoft, we will vote
|   for Microsoft
| - if we only reach a majority (>=50%) to vote for Microsoft, we
|   will vote for Microsoft
| - if we reach a majority to vote against Microsoft, we will vote
|   for Microsoft
| - if we reach consensus to vote against Microsoft, we will abstain
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-15521/swiss-cheese


Microsoft’s secretive standards orgs in Former Yugoslavia

,----[ Quote ]
| Croatian laws keep its national body’s votes secret, so the only way for the 
| Croatian public to find out how the process went would be if a board member 
| illegally leaked information out of CSI. This is, of course, unlikely to 
| happen. And the Serbian national standardization body is not officially 
| formed, so those two votes were easy for Microsoft, and probably not only 
| ones around the globe.      
`----

http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/092407-ooxml.html?page=1


Microsoft Tech Ed 2007: OpenXML

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| He was asked "Why did Microsoft push OOXML through the "Fast Track" process 
| instead of the standard ISO process? Wouldn't they get less resistance than 
| faced now?"  
| 
| His response was very frank: "Office is a USD$10 billion revenue generator 
| for the company. When ODF was made an ISO standard, Microsoft had to react 
| quickly as certain governments have procurement policies which prefer ISO 
| standards. Ecma and OASIS are 'international standards', but ISO is the 
| international 'Gold Standard'. Microsoft therefore had to rush this standard 
| through. Its a simple matter of commercial interests!"     
`----            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2007/09/microsoft-tech-.html


Evidence of Microsoft Influencing OOXML Votes in Nordic States

,----[ Quote ]
| "This is how a standard is bought," Bosson wrote later. "I left the meeting 
| in protest - pissed off." 
`----

http://www.betanews.com/article/Evidence_of_Microsoft_Influencing_OOXML_Votes_in_Nordic_States/1188335569


Microsoft Memo to Partners in Sweden Surfaces: Vote Yes for OOXML - Updated

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| He acknowledges that the rules might need to be changed.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070829070630660


The OOXML Problem

,----[ Quote ]
| Another thing, by introducing a "new fancy" document format, MS can hold a 
| tighter grip round existing customers and get more on the false pretence that 
| they've "opened up".  
`----

http://phun-ky.net/2007/08/the-ooxml-problem


Rejecting OOXML

,----[ Quote ]
| All the CIOs say they want is XML documents; unfortunately they aren't as 
| aware as Georg Greve, above, that Microsoft's implementation of XML is 
| exceedingly half-hearted.  
`----

http://fussnotes.typepad.com/plexnex/2007/08/rejecting-ooxml.html

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