____/ Tom Shelton on Saturday 15 December 2007 10:32 : \____
> On Dec 14, 11:51 pm, "[H]omer" <s...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Just shopping for spare parts, and I came across this page:
>>
>> http://www.sennheiserspares.com(commercial)
>>
>> It's a very simple page, with little content, and what would be a simple
>> layout *if* it actually rendered properly.
>>
>> On Firefox-2.0.0.09 (Linux), this is what it /actually/ looks like:
>>
>> http://media.slated.org/albums/userpics/sennheiser-spares.png
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Let's see:
>>
>> ######
>> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
>> xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
>> xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882"
>> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";>
>>
>> <head>
>> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
>> <link rel=File-List href="index_files/filelist.xml">
>> <!--[if !mso]>
>> <style>
>> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>> o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>> b\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>> .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>> </style>
>> <![endif]-->
>> <title>Home</title>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Brace yourself for this next bit. You may think you've seen html div
>> elements before, but not like this. Introducing ... The Beast(R):
>>
>> <div style='position:absolute;width:7.9319in;height:11.5465in'>
>> <!--[if gte vml 1]><v:rect id="_x0000_s1441"
>> style='position:absolute;left:.15pt;
>> top:76.55pt;width:132.82pt;height:566.91pt;z-index:63;visibility:visible;
>>
mso-wrap-edited:f;mso-wrap-distance-left:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-top:2.88p-t;
>> mso-wrap-distance-right:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:2.88pt'
>> fillcolor="#ffebae"
>> stroked="f" strokecolor="black [0]" o:cliptowrap="t">
>> <v:stroke color2="white [7]">
>> <o:left v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:top v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:right v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:bottom v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:column v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> </v:stroke>
>> <v:shadow color="#ccc [4]"/>
>> <v:path insetpenok="f"/>
>> <o:lock v:ext="edit" shapetype="t"/>
>> <v:textbox inset="2.88pt,2.88pt,2.88pt,2.88pt"/>
>> </v:rect><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='position:absolute;z-index:63;
>> left:0px;top:102px;width:177px;height:756px'><img width=177 height=756
>> src="index_files/image1819.gif"
>> v:shapes="_x0000_s1441"></span><![endif]><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:line
>> id="_x0000_s1442" style='position:absolute;z-index:64;visibility:visible;
>>
mso-wrap-edited:f;mso-wrap-distance-left:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-top:2.88p-t;
>> mso-wrap-distance-right:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:2.88pt'
>> from="1.88pt,76.55pt"
>> to="569.43pt,76.55pt" strokecolor="#900" strokeweight="1.5pt"
>> o:cliptowrap="t">
>> <v:stroke>
>> <o:left v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:top v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:right v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:bottom v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:column v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> </v:stroke>
>> <v:shadow color="#ccc [4]"/>
>> <v:path insetpenok="f"/>
>> </v:line><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='position:absolute;z-index:64;
>> left:1px;top:101px;width:760px;height:3px'><img width=760 height=3
>> src="index_files/image1667.gif"
>> v:shapes="_x0000_s1442"></span><![endif]><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:group
>> id="_x0000_s1443"
>> style='position:absolute;left:165pt;top:759pt;width:387pt;
>> height:70.27pt;z-index:65' coordorigin="108358671,97269935"
>> coordsize="5319065,892492">
>> <v:rect id="_x0000_s1444"
>> style='position:absolute;left:108358671;top:97269935;
>> width:5319065;height:892492;visibility:hidden;mso-wrap-edited:f'
>> stroked="f"
>> o:cliptowrap="t">
>> <v:fill recolor="t" rotate="t"/>
>> <v:stroke joinstyle="round">
>> <o:left v:ext="view" weight="0" on="t"/>
>> <o:top v:ext="view" weight="0" on="t"/>
>> <o:right v:ext="view" weight="0" on="t"/>
>> <o:bottom v:ext="view" weight="0" on="t"/>
>> <o:column v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> </v:stroke>
>> <v:imagedata cropbottom="16777215f" cropright="16777215f"/>
>> <v:path gradientshapeok="f" insetpenok="f" o:connecttype="segments"/>
>> <o:lock v:ext="edit" shapetype="t"/>
>> <v:textbox inset="2.88pt,2.88pt,2.88pt,2.88pt"/>
>> </v:rect><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t202" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="202"
>> path="m,l,21600r21600,l21600,xe">
>> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/>
>> <v:path gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/>
>> </v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_s1445" type="#_x0000_t202" alt=""
>> style='position:absolute;
>>
>> left:108358671;top:97269935;width:5319065;height:892492;visibility:visible;
>>
>>
mso-wrap-edited:f;mso-wrap-distance-left:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-top:2.88p-t;
>> mso-wrap-distance-right:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:2.88pt' filled="f"
>> fillcolor="white [7]" stroked="f" strokecolor="black [0]"
>> o:cliptowrap="t">
>> <v:stroke dashstyle="dash">
>> <o:left v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:top v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:right v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:bottom v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:column v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> </v:stroke>
>> <v:shadow color="#ccc [4]"/>
>> <v:path insetpenok="f"/>
>> <o:lock v:ext="edit" shapetype="t"/>
>> <v:textbox style='mso-column-margin:5.76pt'
>> inset="2.88pt,2.88pt,2.88pt,2.88pt">
>> <div dir=ltr>
>> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='language:EN'>Home | </span><span
>> style='language:EN'><a
>> href="index_files/Page449.html">Headphones/Batteries</a></span><span
>> style='language:EN'> |</span><span style='language:EN'> </span><span
>> style='language:EN'><a
>> href="index_files/Page592.html">Earpads</a></span><span
>> style='language:EN'> | </span><span style='language:EN'><a
>> href="index_files/Page738.html">Cables</a></span><span
>> style='language:EN'> | </span><span
>> style='language:EN'><a
>> href="index_files/Page944.html">Headbands</a></span><span
>> style='language:EN'> | </span><span style='language:EN'><a
>> href="index_files/Page1096.html">Capsules</a></span><span
>> style='language:
>> EN'> | </span><span style='language:EN'><a
>> href="index_files/Page1248.html">Order Form</a></span></p>
>> </div>
>> </v:textbox>
>> </v:shape></v:group><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='position:absolute;
>> z-index:65;left:219px;top:1011px;width:518px;height:96px'><img width=518
>> height=96 src="index_files/image1515.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_s1443
>> _x0000_s1445"></span><![endif]><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shape
>> id="_x0000_s1446" type="#_x0000_t202" style='position:absolute;left:165pt;
>> top:663pt;width:205.68pt;height:28.3pt;z-index:66;visibility:visible;
>>
mso-wrap-edited:f;mso-wrap-distance-left:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-top:2.88p-t;
>> mso-wrap-distance-right:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:2.88pt' filled="f"
>> fillcolor="black [0]" stroked="f" strokecolor="#fc3" strokeweight="0"
>> o:cliptowrap="t">
>> <v:fill color2="white [7]"/>
>> <v:stroke dashstyle="dash">
>> <o:left v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:top v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:right v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:bottom v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> <o:column v:ext="view" color="black [0]" color2="white [7]"/>
>> </v:stroke>
>> <v:shadow color="#ccc [4]"/>
>> <v:path insetpenok="f"/>
>> <o:lock v:ext="edit" shapetype="t"/>
>> <v:textbox style='mso-column-margin:2mm'
>> inset="2.85pt,2.85pt,2.85pt,2.85pt"/>
>> </v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='position:absolute;z-index:66;
>> left:220px;top:884px;width:275px;height:38px'>
>>
>> ######
>>
>> Oh ... my ... God!
>>
>> WTF is *that* crap?!?!?!?
>>
>> That page is 53K in size. I could do it in about one tenth of that ...
>> with exactly the same (intended) layout. With one important difference
>> though ... it would actually render properly because it would use real
>> industry standards, and not Microsoft's alien gibberish.
>>
>> It could be worse I suppose, at least that page /rendered/ ... barely.
>>
>> This one didn't:
>>
>> http://media.slated.org/albums/userpics/Microsofts_b0rken_Web.png
>>
>> *Microsoft and their proprietary garbage are a disease.*
>>
>> --
>> K.http://slated.org
>>
>> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.
>> . .
>> . "Remember, if Christmas isn't found in your heart, .
>> . you won't find it under a tree." ~ C. Carpenter .
>> . .
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>> . .
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>>
>> Fedora release 8 (Werewolf) on sky, running kernel 2.6.23.8-63.fc8
>> 06:49:01 up 3 days, 6:01, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.10
>
> It looks to me, that someone did a save as on html on a word documnet
> and then put it on the web... Not a smart thing todo.
>
> --
> Tom Shelton
Explain this to the man in these tapes:
Gates Deposition Audio and Video
,----[ Quote ]
| Here is our local copy of the depositions of Bill Gates in the
| Microsoft anti-trust suit. We did our best to convert the
| original Windows Media files into an Open format, ogg. Your
| webmaster is responsible for the video transcoding, the
| audio-only files are contributed by a Groklaw member that
| requested to stay anonymous.
`----
http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=GatesDepo
Here is what he said after he "tilted Netscape into the death spiral":
,----[ Quote ]
| From: Bill Gates
| Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To: Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc: Paul Mariz
| Subject: Office rendering
|
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
|
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
|
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to to destroy Windows.
`----
http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf
And Microsoft deliberately pulls these tricks:
Is Microsoft learning from Web standards mistakes?
,----[ Quote ]
| In a video interview with ZDNet Australia last month, Microsoft blogger and
| group manager of technical community, Frank Arrigo, explained how important
| it is for the Redmond giant to follow Web standards.
|
| "Standards are important," said Arrigo, who admitted that Microsoft had been
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| guilty of ignoring them in the past. "If you look at IE6, we didn't quite
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| follow all the standards but standards are important ...
`----
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Is-Microsoft-learning-from-Web-standards-mistakes-/0,130061733,339280240,00.htm
Microsoft only gives 'tools' -- the tools needed for ignorant users to
eliminate competition on behalf on the monopoly abuser.
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