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[News] KDE's Office Suite Reviewed, The Story of Microsoft Manipulations and Frauds

  • Subject: [News] KDE's Office Suite Reviewed, The Story of Microsoft Manipulations and Frauds
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:38:59 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
OpenOffice Alternative: KWord 1.6

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| OpenOffice is the darling of the FOSS office suites, and it is a nice suite. 
| It's cross-platform, and OpenOffice Writer is a first-rate word processor 
| with a lot of advanced features. But it's not the only good option for Linux 
| users: Abiword and KWord are excellent lightweight word processors with good 
| feature sets, and both are licensed under the GPL.    
`----

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/3715536

Gnumeric and OOo are apparently being subverted by Novell (Microsoft and de
Icaza, by association).

Stuffing it Up - ODF and OOXML Document Format Battle

,----[ Quote ]
| Industry Motive: To preserve a monopoly and the fight to protect a 
| four-billion-dollar per year cash cow against those who stand for open 
| standards, against those who want to create even playing fields, fair 
| competition, innovation and open access for everyone to benefit.   
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http://fanaticattack.com/2007/stuffing-it-up-odf-and-ooxml-document-format-battle.html


Yesterday:

KDE takes stand on OOXML; GNOME dithers

,----[ Quote ]
| Three cheers for the developers and management of the K Desktop Environment. 
| They have taken a principled stand on the divisive issue of OOXML, the 
| Microsoft Office Open XML document format. And for this the KDE folk deserve 
| a round of applause.   
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/15738/1091/


Engineering Industry support for OOXML - Novell

,----[ Quote ]
| Wikipedia: "A puppet is a representational object manipulated by a puppeteer. 
| It is usually but not always a depiction of a human character and is used in 
| (a) play or a presentation. The puppet undergoes a process of transformation 
| through being animated, and is normally manipulated by one, or sometimes more 
| than one, puppeteer. Some puppets can be moved electronically." Does Novell 
| qualify as an OOXML puppet?     
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-30546/engineering-industry-support-for-ooxml-novell


Related:

All sides of the debate?

,----[ Quote ]
| How many sides are there in the OOXML debate? What if all sides are Microsoft 
| and Microsoft business partners? 
| 
| [...]
| 
| Dough Mahugh (Microsoft) :
| 
|     Next week's XML 2007 conference in Boston features speakers from all 
|     sides of the document format debate, including a document interop session 
|     with Miguel de Icaza (Novell) and Vijay Rajagopalan (Microsoft) that I 
|     expect will offer a lively discussion around Open XML, ODF, and XML-based 
|     interoperability in general.    
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-29108/all-sides-of-the-debate


OpenSolaris, Gobuntu, and be careful who you kiss

,----[ Quote ]
| I read the agreement between Xandros and Microsoft, and one of the excluded 
| products was Mono, so Microsoft promises to not sue Xandros over their 
| distribution but excluding Mono and a few other products, i.e. they reserve 
| the right to sue over Mono. I wonder if this is an interesting preview of on 
| what basis they want to fight the free world.    
| 
| Interestingly, the Novell deal seems to be different, Mono is not excluded 
| from the Novell deal. So Microsoft seems to be promising not to sue Novell 
| over Mono, but keeps the option open for Xandros. Weird but true.  
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http://commandline.org.uk/2007/be-careful-who-you-kiss/


Miguel, Mono and Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| is Mono's role in the deal that of a hook to make customers write
| .NET applications because they can be run on Linux - only to find
| later on that they are armless or legless because of a change in
| the .NETspecifications, a change which Microsoft decides not to
| make public?
| 
| [...]
| 
| And here we have an individual who decides to replicate one of
| the proprietary company's development environments - for reasons
| best known to him alone - and keeps telling people that the reason
| he's doing it is so that he can pull people over from the
| proprietary company's side to his side!!!
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http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11081&Itemid=1091


Available Now: OpenOffice.org Novell Edition for Windows

,----[ Quote ]
| Let's consider a couple of the features that you get in the Novell
| Edition but are not likely to have been integrated into upstream OOo yet:
| 
|     * Excel VBA Macro execution
|     * Performance improvements
|     * AGFA fonts
|     * Better Bullets (now in upstream OOo)
|     * Simple Solver
|     * GroupWise integration
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http://reverendted.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/ooo-novell-edition-now-available-for-windows/


Sun Refuses LGPL for OpenOffice; Novell forks

,----[ Quote ]
| Because of Sun's refusal to accept LPGL extensions in the upstream code, 
| Michael Meeks (who recently talked about Sun's OO.o community failings, and 
| ODF and OOXML) has announced ooo-build (previously just for build fixes) is 
| now a formal fork of OpenOffice to be located at http://go-oo.org/.    
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http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/03/1212234.shtml


Questions I'd like to see asked about the Microsoft-Novell deal

,----[ Quote ]
| The questions asked as part of this study were about as open-ended
| and wishy-washy as you could get. Researchers asked customers
| deploying a mix of Windows, SuSE Linux and Red Hat Linux whether
| they were in favor of more vendor interoperability. They asked
| customers if they believed it would be helpful if Microsoft
| worked more closely with Linux vendors. They asked whether they
| approved of the Microsoft-Novell collaboration. And they
| questioned whether users "take responsibility for the
| intellectual property in the products they ship."
| 
| The only question on PSB's list that I found remotely interesting
| was whether users would be any more likely to buy SuSE Linux as a
| result of the Microsoft-Novell deal. Sixty-nine percent said yes.
| (I'm actually surprised this number isn't higher.)
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=145

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