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[News] More Proof That Novell's OOXML Was 'Bought' by Microsoft

  • Subject: [News] More Proof That Novell's OOXML Was 'Bought' by Microsoft
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:01:54 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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Those who forget Santayana...

,----[ Quote ]
| So much for Novell's complaint from 2004. I'm told that this is still case is 
| suspended as of November, 2007, as the two parties pursue mediation. A status 
| report on that mediation is due to Judge Motz by January 11th, 2008. Maybe 
| we're hear more then.   
`----

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/12/those-who-forget-santayana.html

And now Novell is assisting Microsoft (it's in the contract).


Related:

Engineering Industry support for OOXML - Novell

,----[ Quote ]
| Wikipedia: "A puppet is a representational object manipulated by a puppeteer. 
| It is usually but not always a depiction of a human character and is used in 
| (a) play or a presentation. The puppet undergoes a process of transformation 
| through being animated, and is normally manipulated by one, or sometimes more 
| than one, puppeteer. Some puppets can be moved electronically." Does Novell 
| qualify as an OOXML puppet?     
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-30546/engineering-industry-support-for-ooxml-novell


All sides of the debate?

,----[ Quote ]
| How many sides are there in the OOXML debate? What if all sides are Microsoft 
| and Microsoft business partners? 
| 
| [...]
| 
| Dough Mahugh (Microsoft) :
| 
|     Next week's XML 2007 conference in Boston features speakers from all 
|     sides of the document format debate, including a document interop session 
|     with Miguel de Icaza (Novell) and Vijay Rajagopalan (Microsoft) that I 
|     expect will offer a lively discussion around Open XML, ODF, and XML-based 
|     interoperability in general.    
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-29108/all-sides-of-the-debate


Miguel, Mono and Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| is Mono's role in the deal that of a hook to make customers write
| .NET applications because they can be run on Linux - only to find
| later on that they are armless or legless because of a change in
| the .NETspecifications, a change which Microsoft decides not to
| make public?
| 
| [...]
| 
| And here we have an individual who decides to replicate one of
| the proprietary company's development environments - for reasons
| best known to him alone - and keeps telling people that the reason
| he's doing it is so that he can pull people over from the
| proprietary company's side to his side!!!
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http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11081&Itemid=1091


Available Now: OpenOffice.org Novell Edition for Windows

,----[ Quote ]
| Let's consider a couple of the features that you get in the Novell
| Edition but are not likely to have been integrated into upstream OOo yet:
| 
|     * Excel VBA Macro execution
|     * Performance improvements
|     * AGFA fonts
|     * Better Bullets (now in upstream OOo)
|     * Simple Solver
|     * GroupWise integration
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http://reverendted.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/ooo-novell-edition-now-available-for-windows/


Sun Refuses LGPL for OpenOffice; Novell forks

,----[ Quote ]
| Because of Sun's refusal to accept LPGL extensions in the upstream code, 
| Michael Meeks (who recently talked about Sun's OO.o community failings, and 
| ODF and OOXML) has announced ooo-build (previously just for build fixes) is 
| now a formal fork of OpenOffice to be located at http://go-oo.org/.    
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http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/03/1212234.shtml


Questions I'd like to see asked about the Microsoft-Novell deal

,----[ Quote ]
| The questions asked as part of this study were about as open-ended
| and wishy-washy as you could get. Researchers asked customers
| deploying a mix of Windows, SuSE Linux and Red Hat Linux whether
| they were in favor of more vendor interoperability. They asked
| customers if they believed it would be helpful if Microsoft
| worked more closely with Linux vendors. They asked whether they
| approved of the Microsoft-Novell collaboration. And they
| questioned whether users "take responsibility for the
| intellectual property in the products they ship."
| 
| The only question on PSB's list that I found remotely interesting
| was whether users would be any more likely to buy SuSE Linux as a
| result of the Microsoft-Novell deal. Sixty-nine percent said yes.
| (I'm actually surprised this number isn't higher.)
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=145


Privileged Access on Linux

,----[ Quote ]
| It is the "OpenOffice.org Novell Edition", that is a kind of half fork of the 
| official OpenOffice.org. Novell is pulling the strings to get the Gnome 
| project to adopt its version as the official Gnome OpenOffice. This fork is 
| using the last version of the OOo and adding/changing features to   
| it to create a different product: the "Novell Edition".
| 
| The main difference between the OpenOffice.org Novell Edition and the 
| official version of the project is that the Novell Edition is encouraged to 
| provide import and export to OOXML. Additionally it includes some add-ons 
| that they didn't want to integrate in the official version of OpenOffice.org 
| (indeed they chosed an incompatible license to prevent any kind of 
| integration of their code in the official project). These add-ons can be seen 
| here: http://www.go-oo.org      
| 
| All this strategy of to divide the "instrumental" OOo project probably is 
| under the umbrella of the Microsoft-Novell agreement. 
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-28990/privileged-access-on-linux

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