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Re: If you are pissed with Microsoft de-facto monopoly...

  • Subject: Re: If you are pissed with Microsoft de-facto monopoly...
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:12:03 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / Netscape
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__/ [ Dean G. ] on Monday 19 February 2007 21:11 \__

> On Feb 19, 1:13 pm, "MuahMan" <muah...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> WTF!?!!  I thought everything "Just Worked" on Macs. Ad this to the list
>> of hundreds, yea thousands of things you can't do on your Mac......
>> banking.
>>
>> Of course you could boot to Windows on your mac just to do your
>> banking....
>> LOL  on, and to do your work..... and and and and...
> 
> Of course a web site written to a specific buggy and non-standard
> compliant bowser will often not work with anything else. You seem
> surprised, as the clueless often are.

It's all made this way _by design_.

,----[ Quote ]
| From:       Bill Gates
| Sent:       Saturday, December 05, 1989 9:44 AM [1998]
| To:         Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc:         Paul Mariz
| Subject:    Office rendering
| 
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office 
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the 
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
| 
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
| 
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to  to destroy Windows.
`----

http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf


Carrying Water for Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| Careless Web developers work tirelessly to maintain Redmond's dominance.
|
| [...]
|
| Fidelity's contractor didn't set out to build a website that would shut
| out Macintosh and Linux users. But by being lax with its choice of
| Web authoring technologies, that's exactly what it did.
`---- 

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/posts.aspx?id=17504&author=garfinkel


Also see:

Expert Testimony of Ronald Alepin in Comes v. Microsoft - Embrace, Extend,
Extinguish

,----[ Quote ]
| You'll hear some emails read aloud, one of Bill Gates's, an email from
| 1996 about Java, where he says he was losing sleep over how great
| Java was, and you'll see a strategy he suggested -- "fully
| supporting Java and extending it in a Windows/Microsoft way".
|
| [...]
| 
| Well, when applets are cross-platform, it expands the number of 
| applications that are available to you so you can go to a website.
| And if you have a Linux computer or a Macintosh computer or a Windows 3.1 
| computer, you can get an application and it will run.
| 
| You don't have to either select a specific application or hope that the 
| independent software vendor or the website created the application for your 
| platform. So it would increase the number of applications available to you. 
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070108020408557


Comes v. Microsoft Resumes Today

,----[ Quote ]
| "Ronald Alepin, an independent consultant and former CTO for Fujitsu,
| disputed the idea that Microsoft had been an innovator in the field.
| He said that interoperability protocols were developed by companies
| other than Microsoft, and that Microsoft has simply extended the
| protocols and then refused to disclose the extensions. In so doing, 
| he told the court, Microsoft "has hijacked standard
| interoperability protocols agreed by the entire industry."
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070104031852847


Microsoft's Allegedly Undocumented APIs - Comes v. Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| One of the allegations is that in this expert's opinion, Andrew
| Schulman, "Microsoft Office uses (and copies) undocumented DirectUI APIs"
| and "Microsoft Office and other Microsoft applications use undocumented
| Windows Line Services APIs".
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007020819534335

Hope this helps someone's perspective. The monopoly abusers is as guilty as
(if not more than) the designer.

-- 
                ~~ Greetings

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