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[News] Oracle Can Steal Business from Microsoft Linux

  • Subject: [News] Oracle Can Steal Business from Microsoft Linux
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:51:46 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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Oracle Virtual Server Unlikely to Blunt VMware

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| He noted that Burlington Coat Factory is also evaluating whether to replace 
| its SUSE Linux software with Oracle’s Unbreakable Linux implementation, which 
| would give the company another reason to use Oracle VM.  



Oracle's Unbreakable Linux tries to neutralize Microsoft apps

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| Thus, a win for Linux is a win for Oracle as it immediately eliminates SQL 
| Server, Exchange, and Visual Studio from the equation and increases the 
| likelihood that a customer will choose Oracle software, Aslett said.  
| That's true regardless of whether customers choose Oracle Unbreakable Linux – 
| or Red Hat.  


Ellison on Microsoft abuses:


Why does Larry Ellison have a Red Hat fetish?

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| Larry doesn't understand open source. This isn't surprising since the people 
| who report to him apparently don't, either (though I don't include Mike Olson 
| in that crowd - he's a victim of golden handcuffs :-). Oracle desperately 
| wants open source to be "just another tool" that it uses for IT domination. 
| It's not. It actually has the opposite effect.    
| Oracle just can't grok this.
| It wants to own the Linux kernel. It can't. It wanted to own JBoss. It 
| couldn't. Open source is about controlling through sharing, but Oracle 
| doesn't do the "share" thing very well.  
| And so we'll have to sporadically endure Mr. Ellison's ego pronouncing 
| himself god of the Linux world, despite his Linux business being so anemic  
| that he won't break out its numbers. If the numbers are so great, report 
| them, Mr. Ellison. (Having said this, it's important to note that Oracle 
| stopped breaking out revenue by product line many years ago.)   


Ellison: 'Fusion Must Coexist'

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| Ellison also acknowledged Red Hat's growth in "a healthy market" for both 
| companies. "We're also doing something Red Hat isn't, which is shipping 
| Oracle VM underneath our Linux offering so there is a single stack of code. 
| If you have applications that run on Red Hat, it will run unchanged on 
| Oracle's enterprise software."    


Larry Ellison thrashes Red Hat

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| "At Oracle we've been in the Linux business for a year now," he said.
| "With the Red Hat code all we did for the first year was fix bugs. Now Oracle 
| growing a lot faster than Red Hat. Red Hat's been growing too because it’s a 
| growing market."  


OpenWorld: 1,500 companies adopt Oracle Unbreakable Linux

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| Despite Oracle's fast growth, Red Hat remains the top dog in the enterprise 
| Linux market, with tens of thousands of subscribers to its support business. 
| During its Q1 2008 call with analysts, Red Hat CEO Matthew Szulik said it 
| added "multiple of thousands of customers" in that quarter alone.   


Ellison touts Fusion Applications

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| Oracle CEO Larry Ellison didn't display much of his traditional flamboyance 
| Wednesday at Oracle's OpenWorld conference, but he did preview the company's 
| next-generation Fusion Applications and said its Unbreakable Linux offering 
| has met with initial success.   


OpenWorld: Oracle restricting app support to its own virtualization platform

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| Buried under the surface of Oracle Corp.'s Monday announcement that it plans 
| to get into the virtualization market is the fact that the company won't 
| support its database and many other applications if they are running on 
| virtualization software from VMware Inc., Microsoft Corp. or even Red Hat 
| Inc.    
| That effectively limits enterprise users who want to run their Oracle 
| applications more efficiently through virtualization to just one platform: 
| Oracle's new VM.   


Oracle's mixed messages on "compatibility" with Red Hat Enterprise Linux

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| No offense, Oracle, but if it looks like a fork, smells like a fork, and acts 
| like a fork, it's a fork, and "fully compatible" is simply not a credible 
| guarantee. You can't change someone else's code and crown it "fully 
| compatible."   


Oracle claims no Linux ulterior motive

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| Oracle is using LinuxWorld to try and calm concerns its Enterprise Linux and 
| Unbreakable Linux Network (ULN) will fork Red Hat and fragment the Linux 
| market.  


Oracle's got a giant Red Hat fork coming, says spaceman

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| Oracle's assault on Linux looks to take the shape of a fork in the near 
| future, according to Canonical founder and Ubuntu chief Mark Shuttleworth. 


Is Unbreakable a long-term Linux play?

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| After initial cynicism I have been forced to rethink my opinion on a couple 
| of occassions, notably Oracle's patent pledge, the naming of customers and 
| the naming of partners, although I remain unconvinced that OEL is a long-term 
| strategy for the company as opposed to an attempt to disrupt the market.   
| Linux is clearly a long-term commitment. Oracle Enterprise Linux? Not sure.


Ubuntu chief: Oracle Linux has 'tactical value'

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| Oracle has the ability to support Linux, and doing so could
| have "tactical value" for the database company, the founder
| of Ubuntu Linux--and a potential Oracle partner--said Friday.


Shuttleworth: Oracle-Ubuntu partnership only a matter of time

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| Canonical Ltd. CEO Mark Shuttleworth said a partnership with
| Oracle is no longer a matter of if, but when.


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