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[News] [Rival] Microsoft to Try 'Pulling a Netscape' on Adobe

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft to Try 'Pulling a Netscape' on Adobe
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:10:50 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Is Adobe breathing down Microsoft's neck?

,----[ Quote ]
| Instead of writing applications chained to a proprietary operating system, 
| developers would build programs that ran on top of the Internet browser. 
| 
| Microsoft was dead in the water. Or so a lot of smart people wanted to 
| believe. 
| 
| Even Netscape's co-founder, Marc Andreessen, got caught up in the hype, 
| famously dismissing Windows as a "poorly debugged set of device drivers." A 
| lot of people felt the same way. If the industry was about to embrace 
| Web-centric computing, Microsoft would be in danger of losing its hegemony 
| over desktop computing.     
| 
| [...]
| 
| But a product like AIR, which is still in beta, allows people to do their 
| work offline. They can drag and drop graphics or text between Web and desktop 
| applications without first needing to be online. One potential negative: AIR 
| is another proprietary plug-in and people may not want to write to it because 
| it's Adobe's technology and consumers may get sick of downloading yet one 
| more download.     
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http://www.news.com/Is-Adobe-breathing-down-Microsofts-neck/2010-1012_3-6211802.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news


Related:

Gates deposition videos

,----[ Quote ]
| Boies: Do you remember that in January, 1996, a lot of OEMs were
| bundling non-Microsoft browsers?
| 
| Gates: I'm not sure.
| 
| Boies: What were the non-Microsoft browsers that you were
| concerned about in January of 1996?
| 
| Gates: What's the question? You're trying to get me to recall
| what other browsers I was thinking about when I wrote that sentence?
| 
| Boies: No, because you've told me that you don't know what you
| were thinking about when you wrote that sentence.
| 
| Gates: Right.
| 
| Boies: What I'm trying to do is get you to tell me what
| non-Microsoft browsers you were concerned about in January of
| 1996. If it had been only one, I probably would have used the
| name of it. Instead I seem to be using the term non-Microsoft
| browsers. My question is what non-Microsoft browsers were you 
| concerned about in January of 1996?
| 
| Gates: I'm sure -- what's the question? Is it -- are you asking
| me about when I wrote this e-mail or what are you asking me about?
| 
| Boies: I'm asking you about January of 1996.
| 
| Gates: That month?
| 
| Boies: Yes, sir.
| 
| Gates: And what about it?
| 
| Boies: What non-Microsoft browsers were you concerned about in
| January of 1996?
| 
| Gates: I don't know what you mean "concerned."
| 
| Boies: What is it about the word "concerned" that you don't
| understand?
| 
| Gates: I'm not sure what you mean by it. 
`----

http://wincent.com/a/about/wincent/weblog/archives/2007/02/gates_depositio.php


Gates Deposition Audio and Video

,----[ Quote ]
| Here is our local copy of the depositions of Bill Gates in the
| Microsoft anti-trust suit. We did our best to convert the
| original Windows Media files into an Open format, ogg. Your
| webmaster is responsible for the video transcoding, the
| audio-only files are contributed by a Groklaw member that
| requested to stay anonymous.
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=GatesDepo


Related:

,----[ Quote ]
| From:       Bill Gates
| Sent:       Saturday, December 05, 1989 9:44 AM
| To:         Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc:         Paul Mariz
| Subject:    Office rendering
| 
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office 
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the 
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
| 
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
| 
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to  to destroy Windows.
`----

http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf


Microsoft's Marketing Scheme: Software Credits for Enterprise Commitment

,----[ Quote ]
| Hmmm. Wasn't there a similar program designed to get companies to
| use Internet Explorer when Netscape was gaining market share? Next
| thing you'll know, we'll hear assertions that Microsoft Live Search
| is built into Windows and despite the efforts of thousands of
| Microsoft programmers, can't be removed.
| 
| Our take: We have to agree with Batelle's assertion that this could
| work in organizations that are already all Microsoft; it's straight
| out of the same playbook Microsoft uses with hardware OEMs. All we
| can say is that if Microsoft spent nearly as much attention and money
| on marketing programs to develop customer value as it did on killing
| competing companies, it would be making a lot more money.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/070319/29863_id.html?.v=1


,----[ Quote ]
| "3. INTERNET EXPLORER: Unless specifically requested to the contrary
| by the end user of the Customer System and provided proper
| translation is available, COMPANY will ship MS Internet Explorer
| 2.0, and the most current subsequent higher version Product
| Releases and Version Releases thereof, preinstalled on all
| new Customer Systems..."
`----

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02346.pdf


Is Windows Live dying?

,----[ Quote ]
| Over the last year, Microsoft's Windows Live service lineup has
| grown exponentially. At one point months ago, it seemed clear
| that every service Microsoft brought online would fall under the
| Live brand, but lately the trend seems to be moving slowly in
| the opposite direction. What's happening to Windows Live?
`----

http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2007/2/20/7154


ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

,----[ Quote ]
| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.
`----

http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTML_Hijack/1169824569


Looney Zunes: What does UMG want from Microsoft?

,----[ Quote ]
| As Microsoft gets ready to launch its iPod-rival Zune next week, it's
| agreed to pay Universal Music Group a fee - believed to be a dollar
| per device - to compensate Universal artists.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Why did Microsoft volunteer a payment when it didn't need to?
| 
| [...]
| 
| Optimists wondered if the UMG deal entitled Zune owners to do more witht
| heir Universal songs - for example, exchange them more freely between
| Zune owners.
| 
| (Again, Microsoft's refusal "to comment on speculation" has only led to 
| more speculation.)
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/09/microsoft_universal_zune_fee/


Will Microsoft Buy the New Citrix?  

,----[ Quote ]
| VMware, holding some 85 percent of the market, with its VI3 technologies 
| offers a fully integrated stack and represents a third generation of 
| virtualization technology, while Viridian and Xen-based products, including 
| SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, XenEnterprise 
| and Virtual Iron, remain second-generation products, the report stated.    
`----

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2171434,00.asp


Heady Days for Virtual Systems

,----[ Quote ]
| The former Microsoft Latest News about Microsoft general manager is
| now vice president of XenSource, a Palo Alto, Calif., virtualization 
| company with a growing outpost in Redmond, Wash.
`----

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/59088.html


What the XenSource deal says about open source

,----[ Quote ]
| This is what Citrix is paying for. That and a close relationship with 
| Microsoft that looks likely to get closer. “We will be building dynamic 
| virtualization services and management tools on top of Viridian,” Levine 
| added. “We will build the same set of products we’ve built on top of Xen for 
| Viridian. We’ve already hired a team to go do that up in Redmond.”    
| 
| While Citrix maintained it will continue support for the Xen project, this 
| deal is not about a proprietary vendor getting open source religion. It's 
| about grabbing an emerging player in a rapidly expanding sector of the 
| market.   
`----

http://www.businessreviewonline.com/os/archives/2007/08/what_the_xensou.html


Microsoft ties Windows Live services to OS in updates

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is tying its Windows Live services directly to its Windows OS.
`----

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2218/070905mslivesvcs/index.html


A Software Maker [VMWare] Goes Up Against Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| When quizzed on Microsoft's plans, Mr. Ballmer replied, "Our view is
| that virtualization is something that should be built into the
| operating system."
`----

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/24/technology/24soft.html?ex=1172898000&en=bbca645a927ef7f8&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS
http://tinyurl.com/35jkur

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