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[News] Matt Asay on Why Novell's Moonlight is a Curse (Just Like Novell)

  • Subject: [News] Matt Asay on Why Novell's Moonlight is a Curse (Just Like Novell)
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:37:42 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Moonlight and the dupe quiz? Microsoft or Novell?

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft doesn't respect Novell. Microsoft uses Novell. Novell has a 
| temporary use for Microsoft as its sycophant to "prove" that Microsoft cares 
| about interoperability. "See! We interoperate with Linux, provided that it's 
| a Linux we can crush at a moment's notice the minute too many of you care 
| about it. We'll even keep tabs on your Linux adoption with our nifty coupon 
| program."     
| Novell needs to keep growing its Linux business independent of Microsoft. 
| Then, and only then, will it be able to talk interoperability with Microsoft 
| as an equal and then, and only then, will customers truly benefit. Customers 
| that are locked into the Microsoft + Novell platform are not any more free 
| than they were with just Microsoft. In fact, they may be worse off, because 
| they've been duped into believing they actually have freedom.     
| Watching shadows on the wall....



Linux to Microsoft: Let's Fight with Silverlight

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has spent the past few years trumpeting their "you are
| using patented code" with zero proof or real legal action, this 
| is their ace in the hole. If Microsoft does manage to make sure
| that this Silverlight becomes the new standard for media rich web
| browsing, we are in real trouble.


Microsoft's Silverlight Biased and Doomed

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is undoubtedly making progress in the browser and operating
| system platform struggle, but since their new Web technology can't be
| viewed and created by everyone, they still have a long way to go.


Why Microsoft Silverlight Will Fail.

,----[ Quote ]
| My main reasons (And please, correct me if I am wrong):
|     * No IDE for me - The development path is currently platform
|       specific to Windows. Not even an open compiler or server side
|       compiler for Linux is available. Use Expression Blend on my
|       Mac? Not happening.
|     * No plug in for Linux - Even Adobe has managed to deliver it's
|       modern plugin to Linux users. I only use Linux as a server
|       platform, but with Ubuntu, etc making inroads on the desktop,
|       it's nice to have it as an option.
| [...]


Microsoft's Silverlight and Adobe's Apollo: Web-Killer 2.0

,----[ Quote ]
| Now some may be wondering why so many people, myself included, have such 
| violent negative reactions to these attempts to improve the user experience 
| of the World Wide Web. After all, I wrote a report at Forrester about seven 
| years ago called the X Internet that claimed that the Web needed to be more 
| interactive. So what's wrong with a extensions and developer tools to make 
| it all easier? Well, other than attempting to sidestep important 
| collaborative efforts like World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) and the Web 
| Standards Project, these proprietary browser extensions break the utility 
| of the World Wide Web in important ways. 
| [...]
| It's nice to know that despite changes in interfaces and software
| technology, Microsoft's strategy for the Internet hasn't changed.


Audience abandons Microsoft's MIX 07 keynote

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| He said that when Microsoft and other companies create communities
| around their technology, it's usually accidental, not created by
| any ad placed strategically on a web page or in a game.
| "The Xbox community existed, but the Microsoft ads [in games and
| on Xbox Live] then got moved around quite by accident, not by
| design," Rasala said. "It's unclear that many companies can
| replicate that pattern by design."
| After Bach's keynote, it was difficult to find attendees in
| the hall that did not work for Microsoft. Nine out of 10
| attendees approached for comment after his talk were from
| the company. 


Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web.

,----[ Quote ]
| Sorry, but I have to say something very rude. You clearly don't know
| what you're talking about. That is Microsoft PR talking. Can you say
| "credibility loss".
| Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web
| Silverlight is not about the World Wide Web. It's about The Microsoft
| Web. It's about getting fools to rally around Microsoft. After all of
| this time and experience with Microsoft, anybody with half a brain
| will be smart enough to avoid doing that. The last thing you want to
| be is dependent on Microsoft and set yourself up to be a DIRECT
| competitor with "Microsoft Cloud Services" down the road. Dumb.
| Foolish. Stupid. Smart investors won't invest one dime in your
| company and might even short your stock.
| Remember, it's Microsoft's cloud. Microsoft is not investing in
| huge datacenters all around the world for no reason. And, Microsoft
| will do whatever it takes, including operating that new online
| services business at a huge loss, to starve off any smaller
| competitor that foolishly chose to develop on the Silverlight
| platform. Microsoft sold $44 BILLION and cleared $18 BILLION
| profit last year. How many billions did you make last year?


Microsoft's Silverlight Promises to Disrupt Linux Web Users

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| Just as it seemed that Linux users (especially 64-bit users) would
| finally be able to enjoy streaming content with a minimum of
| hassle, Microsoft's new Silverlight software promises to throw a
| wrench in the works. Because of sites like Google Video and
| Youtube, Flash video has become a common means of streaming
| multimedia over the Internet.


Microsoft's 'Everywhere' excludes Linux

,----[ Quote ]
| This browser add-on enables rendering of WPF content, but
| "Everywhere" doesn't include Linux.


ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

,----[ Quote ]
| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.


Software rivals say Microsoft's Vista illegal in Europe (at CNNMoney.com)

,----[ Excerpt ]
| Software manufacturers, citing 2004 European Commission finding,
| contend the operating system violates server laws in Europe.
| [...]
| "Vista is the first step of Microsoft's strategy to extend its market 
| dominance to the Internet," the ECIS statement said.
| It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace HTML," 
| the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet.
| Microsoft's own language would be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory 
| against rival systems such as Linux, the group says.
| They said a so-called "open XML" platform file format, known as OOXML, is 
| designed to run seamlessly only on the Microsoft Office platform.


,----[ Quote ]
| From:       Bill Gates
| Sent:       Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To:         Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc:         Paul Mariz
| Subject:    Office rendering
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office 
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the 
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to  to destroy Windows.


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