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[News] Mark Shuttleworth Takes Another Hit at Microsoft Deals, Sidles with the FSF (2 Interviews)

  • Subject: [News] Mark Shuttleworth Takes Another Hit at Microsoft Deals, Sidles with the FSF (2 Interviews)
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:39:13 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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Stallman: If you want freedom don't follow Linus Torvalds

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| The founder of the Free Software Foundation asks readers whether they will 
| fight for freedom or be too lazy to resist. 
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http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;211669437

Mark Shuttleworth Interview

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| 9) Do you think Microsoft's patent deals are just an attempt to slow down 
| Linux, or do you think there might be some genuine interest in cooperation? 
| 
| That's a complicated question because it suggests that Microsoft has one 
| single opinion. But like any large organisation, Microsoft will have people 
| internal to it who have a variety of different opinions. So I definitely do 
| believe that some of the folks who are working at Microsoft on the patent 
| deals have a genuine interest in seeing interoperability across Windows and 
| across the free software platform. Unfortunately, I think other people at 
| Microsoft do feel it's a way of limiting the field of engagement between the 
| free software world and the proprietary software world, and making sure that 
| Microsoft effectively has a competitive advantage in that engagement.         
|
| At this stage, all of the deals that have been announced really are very 
| advantageous to Microsoft, and create real barriers to the complete a 
| pervasive adoption of free software. In addition to that, I do think that 
| Microsoft attempts to have its own file formats declared a standard in very 
| bad faith. Because they're pretending to create a standard when in fact the 
| only thing that comes close to implementation of that standard is the 
| Microsoft Office application. And the real value of a standard is to have 
| something which is agreed upon by lots of different groups and implemented by 
| lots of different groups. And that's just not the case with Microsoft's file 
| formats. More importantly, I don't think they will allow other people to 
| implement the standard, they'll simply change it to suit themselves.          
|
| So, Microsoft is a large organisation and I think there are people with good 
| ideas and with bad ideas. It's not simple. I don't think we can simply say 
| that the whole organisation is being constructive or unconstructive. I think 
| we have to look at specific initiatives. Unfortunately, their OpenXML 
| document standard initiative is being driven with poor intention at heart.    
|
| 10) While Richard Stallman is an outspoken critic of the so-called 
| tivoisation, Linus Torvalds just doesn't mind when Linux is used in 
| proprietary devices. What is your stance?  
|
| I do think that DRM, tivoisation, or locked down hardware and software are 
| all a real threat to continued spread of free software. And so I very much 
| support Richard Stallman [interview] and the Free Software Foundation in 
| bringing those issues to the front in the debate of GPLv3.   
| 
| At the same time I think we have to respect the kernel community's choice to 
| license their software under whatever license they choose. And the kernel 
| community has consistently taken quite an open approach to allowing people to 
| do pretty much what they liked with the Linux kernel code. It's not entirely 
| true, but it's true in many cases. The main thing to point out though is that 
| this really is not an issue for free software. In Ubuntu we ship software 
| under, maybe, a hundred and fifty different licenses. So adding GPLv3 as the 
| hundred a fifty-first license is not a problem at all and Linux will continue 
| to progress, regardless of whether the kernel team adopts v2 or v3. As for 
| myself, I think v3 is a very good license, I think it went through a very 
| strong public process, and I think it's a much better license in the end than 
| it was when it began. So I think there's every reason for the kernel 
| community to consider it, but if they choose not to adopt it then that's fine 
| too.             
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http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/rozhovory/mark-shuttleworth?page=1


Related:

Shuttleworth: Microsoft Fracturing the Open-Source Community

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| "That's extortion and we should call it what it is," he said. "To say, as 
| [Microsoft CEO Steve] Ballmer did, that there is undisclosed balance sheet 
| liability, that's just extortion and we should refuse to get drawn into that 
| game. On the other side, if Microsoft is concerned about its intellectual 
| property, there is no one in the free software community that wants to 
| violate anyone's IP. Disclose the patents and we'll fix the code. 
| Alternatively, move on."      
| 
| Microsoft has said it does disclose which patents are being violated, but 
| only in one-on-one conversations with vendors. To Shuttleworth, that is not 
| disclosure, because patents are public documents.  
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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2167193,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000616


[Mark Shuttleworth Interview]

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| Microsoft is asking people to pay them for patents, but they won't 
| say which ones. If a guy walks into a shop and says: "It's an 
| unsafe neighbourhood, why don't you pay me 20 bucks and I'll make 
| sure you're okay," that's illegal. It's racketeering. What Microsoft 
| is doing with intellectual property is exactly the same. It's a great 
| company and I have great admiration for it, but this was not a 
| well considered position.
| 
| So you wouldn't do a deal?
| 
| No, absolutely not. But the time will come when the folks at 
| Microsoft who have a clear vision for the company as a participant 
| in this community, rather than as a hostile antagonist, will win. 
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