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[News] Windows Vista Makes a Case for GNU/Linux, Practically Requires 2GB+ of RAM

  • Subject: [News] Windows Vista Makes a Case for GNU/Linux, Practically Requires 2GB+ of RAM
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:12:10 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
A Business Case for Linux? (Laptops Marketed and Sold as Microsoft Vista Ready)

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| My question is why are these companies (like Acer, Dell and others) selling 
| these memory anemic systems with Vista pre-loaded? It seems to me to be 
| misleading to sell a laptop with Microsoft Vista and less than 2GB of RAM 
| when everyone I know personally in the personal computing technical community 
| seems to agree that 2GB is really the minimum RAM one needs to have a good 
| experience with Microsoft’s Vista.     
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http://blog.eracc.com/2008/04/03/a-business-case-for-linux-laptops-marketed-and-sold-as-microsoft-vista-ready/

My computer at home still has just 0.25GB of RAM. It runs KDE 3.5 like a champ.

"LH [Longhorn] is a pig and I don't see any solution to this problem. If we are
to rise to the challenge of Linux..."

                --Jim Allchin, Microsoft


Recent:

Microsoft tries to stop more ‘Vista-capable’ e-mails from going public

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| Microsoft is trying to put the kibosh on more of its internal (and 
| embarassing) e-mail messages around its Vista marketing plans going public. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| With every version of Windows, Microsoft has worked with hardware partners to 
| find new ways to try to convince users they need more and more powerful 
| machines to take advantage of more feature-rich software. If Microsoft and 
| its partners were/are successful, it means more money in the PC makers’ and 
| Microsoft’s coffers. With Vista, this pact really back-fired, as the already 
| published e-mails around Vista-capable — and more, as-yet-unpublicized 
| messages — will make evident.      
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1254


Microsoft challenges 'Vista Capable' class action

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| If granted, the motion would also postpone any new disclosures of potentially 
| embarrassing company e-mails. 
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9067400


They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

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| Act 1: In 2005, Microsoft plans to say that only PCs that are properly 
| equipped to handle the heavy graphics demands of Vista are “Vista Ready.” 
| 
| Act 2: In early 2006, Microsoft decides to drop the graphics-related hardware 
| requirement in order to avoid hurting Windows XP sales on low-end machines 
| while Vista is readied. (A customer could reasonably conclude that Microsoft 
| is saying, Buy Now, Upgrade Later.) A semantic adjustment is made: Instead of 
| saying that a PC is “Vista Ready,” which might convey the idea that, well, it 
| is ready to run Vista, a PC will be described as “Vista Capable,” which 
| supposedly signals that no promises are made about which version of Vista 
| will actually work.       
| 
| The decision to drop the original hardware requirements is accompanied by 
| considerable internal protest. The minimum hardware configuration was set so 
| low that “even a piece of junk will qualify,” Anantha Kancherla, a Microsoft 
| program manager, said in an internal e-mail message among those recently 
| unsealed, adding, “It will be a complete tragedy if we allowed it.”    
| 
| Act 3: In 2007, Vista is released in multiple versions, including “Home 
| Basic,” which lacks Vista’s distinctive graphics. This placed Microsoft’s 
| partners in an embarrassing position. Dell, which gave Microsoft a postmortem 
| report that was also included among court documents, dryly 
| remarked: “Customers did not understand what ‘Capable’ meant and expected 
| more than could/would be delivered.”     
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=2&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin


Microsoft knew of Vista shortcoming prior to release

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/microsoft-knew-vista-shortcoming-prior/story.aspx?guid=%7B75BE59C7%2DEFA1%2D48B5%2DB4A4%2D90F5E01A52A0%7D&siteid=yhoof


Microsoft dropped Vista hardware spec to raise Intel profits

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/03/01/microsoft_intel_vista_capable_emails/


Microsoft 'Caves' To Intel 

http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/28/microsoft-vista-intel-tech-ebiz-cx_wt_0228vista.html?partner=yahootix


Has Vista lost all credibility?

http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility


E-mail: Microsoft 'botched' dealings with Intel, HP

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| Internal Microsoft e-mails revealed through a federal class-action lawsuit 
| arising from the troubled launch last year of the Windows Vista operating 
| system have provided a provocative inside look at the software giant's 
| machinations with Intel, HP and Dell.   
| 
| The e-mails include an exchange in which one senior Microsoft executive 
| described dealings with computer makers as "really botched." Another manager 
| complained Microsoft was "caving to Intel" and "really burning HP."  
| 
| The e-mails are included in 145 pages of documents unsealed by U.S. District 
| Judge Marsha Pechman in Seattle late Wednesday. They include internal 
| reports and some handwritten notes that offer a rare look inside at the 
| famed "Wintel" partnership, and touch upon the alliance's dealings with 
| Hewlett-Packard, Dell and other computer makers.    
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http://origin.mercurynews.com/businessheadlines/ci_8417811?nclick_check=1


When too much memory is a problem, debug it

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| My Dell has 2.5 gigabytes of memory, but when I try to put the machine into 
| hibernation, I often get a message that there are "insufficient system 
| resources to complete the API."  
| 
| According to a tech-support article at Microsoft's site (sup 
| port.microsoft.com/kb/909095), your problem can be blamed in part on your 
| computer having so much memory.  
| 
| But the bulk of the blame goes to a bug in Windows XP that can be zapped with 
| a small "hot fix" download from that page.  
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http://www.newsday.com/business/yourmoney/ny-a5622293mar23,0,7097465.story


Related:

Vista SP1 to lie about RAM usage. Deliberately!

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| If you right click on "My Computer" and go to properties, it will show the 
| amount of RAM that your computer can see. This is perfectly fine, but 
| sometimes the ignorant consumer buys 4GB of RAM, and thinks there is a 
| problem when their OS only reports 3GB.   
| So, what does the richest company in the world do about it?
| Fix the problem at the core?
| Enforce manufacturers to use 64bit?
| nope. They just have their OS lie about it.
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http://www.antonywilliams.com/2007/12/vista-sp1-to-lie-about-ram-usage.html


Running Microsoft Windows Vista 64bit and 4GB Ram

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| I then ordered 4GB (2 sticks of DDR667) of ram from Newegg.com. Everything 
| arrived fine, I installed the ram which is very simple. With a D630 it 
| involves talking off the keyboard to insert the first stick and then to 
| install the second stick you just have to remove the back panel. I stuck in a 
| Microsoft Windows Vista 64bit version and started the install. Everything 
| went fine, Vista installed rather fast so I was really happy at this point. 
| It rebooted after successful install, was loading into windows and then blue 
| screened. I was devastated lol.       
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http://brianleejackson.com/2007/10/21/vista-and-4gb-ram/


Testing Vista's different memory configurations 

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| You simply cannot play games on Vista with 512MB o memory, at least not the 
| games wen tested. You will sometimes get playable scores but even then the 
| experience and the load time will be ridiculous.
| 
| Anything more than 512MB will help you a lot, with 2x1GB being the best 
| price performance buy.
| 
| 4x1GB is the best choice for best raw performance. It is hard to prove it
| ^^^^^ 
| in every test, but if you have 2x1GB and you load as much in memory, the 
|                                ^^^^^
| system will become endessly slow. 
|                             ^^^^     
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36148


Vista Runs Smooth Only on 2G Memory

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| However, Dell CEO Kevin Rollins suggested otherwise on Thursday, 26 Oct at 
| a speech at Shanghai's Jiaotong University. "I think they tell you maybe 1 
| gig of memory is OK. No, two gigs of memory would be great."
| 
| This echoes with my own experience with Vista RC2. With only 1G of
| RAM, there are many disk activities indicating heavy disk swap, a
| symptom of lack of memory in the system.
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http://www.itechnote.com/2006/10/27/vista-runs-smooth-only-on-2g-memory/


Vista System Memory Concerns

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| Vista: Facing a Slow Adoption. In the beginning, early adopters and
| gamers who are looking to ready themselves for the DirectX 10 upgrade
| will be best suited for those ready to make an investment in the
| unknown.
| 
| Considering how many software and game titles will likely need to
| be run in "compatibility mode" until patches are released across
| the board, I would suggest really looking at what Vista's advantages
| are before taking the plunge.
| 
| No matter how much we may wish to see the path Vista is about to
| embark on, the fact remains that because of its hardware requirements,
| Vista adoption may turn out to be rather slow.
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http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2395&Itemid=449


Microsoft Windows Is A Greedy Memory Hog, The Cure Is To Feed It RAM

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| For Windows 2000, XP, 512MB is the minimum and 1GB or more is recommended.
| For Windows 98 any flavor, 256MB is the minimum and 1GB is recommended. If 
| you are an avid PC gamer or video editor, 1GB is the minimum 
| recommendation. Other operating systems such as Linux or Mac are similar. 
| Simply put: more is better.
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http://bytepowered.org/articles/Article/Microsoft-Windows-Is-A-Greedy-Memory-Hog--The-Cure-Is-To-Feed-It-RAM/539
http://tinyurl.com/yn9ztx


Vista PCs: Suffering from Memory Loss?

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| A reader wants to know why his new computer--which is supposed to have
| 4GB of memory--keeps telling him it really has only 3GB
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http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2007/tc20070326_121616.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_technology

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