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Re: [Rival] Windows Vista Drives People MAD

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____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Wednesday 06 August 2008 18:50 : \____

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rex Ballard
> <rex.ballard@xxxxxxxxx>
>  wrote
> on Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:36:25 -0700 (PDT)
> <d30f7986-dc21-4a16-ad48-276f07ed7f1c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> On Aug 6, 8:00 am, "DFS" <nospam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> > There are fewer article about Vista these days. Nobody cares about it.
>>>
>>> Vista: 17% (1 in 6 users) market share after 18 months of availability
>>> Linux: 1% (1 in 100 users) market share after 17 years of availability
>>
>> In http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
>> I get
>> Vista 11.5% 1 in 10 users after 18 months (XP had 33% after 18
>> months).
>> Linux+Other is about 9%
>> Mac is 4.8%
> 
> All of these figures are extremely suspect -- although I
> can't say how to make them better.  The problem is that
> www.w3schools.com is a self-selected sample, and as any
> serious pollster can tell you, one can draw no conclusions
> from such regarding the superset of that sample.
> 
> For all we know bots are hitting w3schools.
> 
> The same problem presumably plagues hitslink.

Yes, every so-called 'survey'. It's just one among the many reasons why these
stats cannot be trusted. See:

Is Linux Getting the Shaft?

,----[ Quote ]
| As I recently reported, there is an order of magnitude difference between the
| market share of Linux "out there" in the world, and the market share of LInux
| on Scienceblogs.com and on this very blog. Subsequently, I was trolled by my
| very own brother "... so, when is Luniux going to reach 1% market share?...."
| and this item has come out on ZDNet (which we all know is essentially funded
| by Microsoft, right?): Linux - Still chasing that elusive 1% market share.
|
| [...]
|
| So I went and looked. Here is the description of the database used by the
| Market Share service that everyone seems to rely on:
|
|
|     We collect data from the browsers of site visitors to our exclusive
|     on-demand network of live stats customers. The data is compiled from
|     approximately 160 million visitors per month. The information published
|     is an aggregate of the data from this network of hosted website
|     statistics. The site unique visitor and referral information is
|     summarized on a monthly basis.
|
| WTF?
|
| Is this supposed to be some kind of unbiased sample? But wait, there's
| more...
|
| [More jaw-dropping s*ite]
|
|
| [...]
|
| The complexity of this problem is actually rather large. But I can tell you
| one thing: If you were my graduate student and you came to me with this
| sampling strategy, I'd send you back to kindergarten. (If I had that power.)
`----

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/07/is_linux_getting_the_shaft.php?utm_source=sbhomepage&utm_medium=link&utm_content=channellink


>>> Linux is an enormous failure as a consumer product, and would have been
>>> killed off years ago if a return on investment was required.
>>
>> Linux on the DESKTOP has faced the full force of Microsoft's $40
>> billion in leveragaged advertizing revenue,
>> $40 billion in OEM and Corporate revenue which fund a $4 billion/year
>> legal and settlements fund.
> 
> True, and it's still doing remarkably well, regardless.
> I also suspect that many Windows-side desktops are in
> fact dual-boots (certainly three of mine are, although
> I do not boot into Windows that often).

Some people use Live CDs.

>> Meanwhile, Linux APPLIANCES number in the Billions.  There are now
>> almost 2 Linux devices for every Windows desktop on the planet.
>> Routers, TiVo, HDTV, WiFi hubs, and so on.  Linux/Unix also provides
>> cable DVRs, as well as PayPerView servers.  Nearly EVERY Windows
>> desktop user couldn't function if they didn't have access to Linux
>> servers such as Google, Amazon, E-trade, and numerous other Linux
>> based servers.  Even Microsoft's web sites depend on Linux for load
>> buffering and load balancing.
>>
>> Of course, one of the big spin-offs of Linux was the widespread
>> acceptance of Open Source Software.
>>
>> According to http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
>> FireFox has 42.6% of the market, which could be as many as 800 million
>> PCs (since many FF users also use IE and both would be counted in this
>> survey).
> 
> Same problem.  Still, Firefox does seem to have carved out a
> hefty niche; it might even best IE8.  Microsoft might have
> a slight problem here....

With the European Commission? For sure. They already play dirty.

>> There are at least 1/2 billion Open Office deployments in the field
>> today worldwide.
>>
>> And in less than 6 months, ASUS sold 18 million Linux powered EEE PCs.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be funny if ASUS with it's EEE PCs suddenly bumped it's
>> way into the top 10 or even the top 5?
>>
>> Notice that when users were given the choice between Linux and
>> Windows, Linux EEEs outsold Windows EEEs 6 to 4.
>>
>> There are even indicators that, thanks to desktop virtualization,
>> there are almost 6 Linux/Unix desktop deployments for every 4 Windows
>> Vista copies actually deployed to end-users.



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