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[News] Microsoft Tries Sneaking Into HPC Using the Novell Puppet

  • Subject: [News] Microsoft Tries Sneaking Into HPC Using the Novell Puppet
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:31:19 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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Microsoft Wants Windows Deep Inside Linux on Supercomputers
- The scenario was tested with Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10

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| A new resource dropped in January 2008 offers a way to integrate Windows 
| Compute Cluster Server into a Linux Environment through Platform LSF.  
| 
| "The integration of WCCS into the Linux SUSE environment enables users to 
| submit jobs to the Platform LSF scheduler for execution on WCCS. When a job 
| is submitted to the Platform LSF scheduler's WCCS queue on Linux, it is 
| transferred to the Platform LSF installation on Windows Compute Cluster 
| Server. The Platform LSF installation running on WCCS then authenticates the 
| user and runs the job using that user’s credentials," Microsoft stated.      
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Wants-Windows-Deep-Inside-Linux-on-Supercomputers-77659.shtml

Maybe after Microsoft is done trying to acquire a troubled Yahoo it will try a
troubled Novell also. They are already in an "alliance" (word from the press).


Related:

The bizarre relationship that is Novell + Microsoft

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| And how! Here's just a taste:
| 
|     In an email dated October 3, 199, however, Bill Gates ordered his top 
|     executives to retract the documentation of the browsing extensions, but 
|     only until Microsoft's own developers of the Office suite of applications 
|     had sufficient time to work with the hidden extensions to build an 
|     insurmountable advantage over competitors such as WordPerfect. Gates 
|     further explained that without this advantage, Office would not compete 
|     with the major ISVs.      
| 
| This is just the sort of company that I'd want to bet my Linux business upon. 
| Wouldn't you? 
| 
| Point well taken that it's a heterogeneous world that requires odd pairings 
| of companies. But given Novell's understanding of just how bad Microsoft can 
| be, is a partnership the best way to reward that behavior?  
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http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9855416-16.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1001_3-0-10


Did Novell Just Die?

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| Perhaps Novell could sell itself — though such statements have been made 
| about the company ever since former CEO Ray Noorda retired in 1994. Rumored 
| buyers over the years have included Sun, IBM and Oracle, just to name a few. 
| But The VAR Guy doesn’t see that happening. Alas, open source continues to 
| represent a small fraction of Novell’s overall revenue. Novell also has a 
| nice footprint in the endpoint security market and the identity management 
| sector. But there again, sales are a fraction of Novell’s overall revenue.      
| 
| Novell ain’t dead yet. But the flesh wounds are starting to add up. It’s time 
| for the company to get in the applications game. 
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http://www.thevarguy.com/2008/01/17/did-novell-just-die/


Engineering Industry support for OOXML - Novell

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| Wikipedia: "A puppet is a representational object manipulated by a puppeteer. 
| It is usually but not always a depiction of a human character and is used in 
| (a) play or a presentation. The puppet undergoes a process of transformation 
| through being animated, and is normally manipulated by one, or sometimes more 
| than one, puppeteer. Some puppets can be moved electronically." Does Novell 
| qualify as an OOXML puppet?     
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-30546/engineering-industry-support-for-ooxml-novell


All sides of the debate?

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| How many sides are there in the OOXML debate? What if all sides are Microsoft 
| and Microsoft business partners? 
| 
| [...]
| 
| Dough Mahugh (Microsoft) :
| 
|     Next week's XML 2007 conference in Boston features speakers from all 
|     sides of the document format debate, including a document interop session 
|     with Miguel de Icaza (Novell) and Vijay Rajagopalan (Microsoft) that I 
|     expect will offer a lively discussion around Open XML, ODF, and XML-based 
|     interoperability in general.    
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-29108/all-sides-of-the-debate


Miguel, Mono and Microsoft

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| is Mono's role in the deal that of a hook to make customers write
| .NET applications because they can be run on Linux - only to find
| later on that they are armless or legless because of a change in
| the .NETspecifications, a change which Microsoft decides not to
| make public?
| 
| [...]
| 
| And here we have an individual who decides to replicate one of
| the proprietary company's development environments - for reasons
| best known to him alone - and keeps telling people that the reason
| he's doing it is so that he can pull people over from the
| proprietary company's side to his side!!!
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http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11081&Itemid=1091


Available Now: OpenOffice.org Novell Edition for Windows

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| Let's consider a couple of the features that you get in the Novell
| Edition but are not likely to have been integrated into upstream OOo yet:
| 
|     * Excel VBA Macro execution
|     * Performance improvements
|     * AGFA fonts
|     * Better Bullets (now in upstream OOo)
|     * Simple Solver
|     * GroupWise integration
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http://reverendted.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/ooo-novell-edition-now-available-for-windows/


Sun Refuses LGPL for OpenOffice; Novell forks

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| Because of Sun's refusal to accept LPGL extensions in the upstream code, 
| Michael Meeks (who recently talked about Sun's OO.o community failings, and 
| ODF and OOXML) has announced ooo-build (previously just for build fixes) is 
| now a formal fork of OpenOffice to be located at http://go-oo.org/.    
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http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/03/1212234.shtml


Questions I'd like to see asked about the Microsoft-Novell deal

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| The questions asked as part of this study were about as open-ended
| and wishy-washy as you could get. Researchers asked customers
| deploying a mix of Windows, SuSE Linux and Red Hat Linux whether
| they were in favor of more vendor interoperability. They asked
| customers if they believed it would be helpful if Microsoft
| worked more closely with Linux vendors. They asked whether they
| approved of the Microsoft-Novell collaboration. And they
| questioned whether users "take responsibility for the
| intellectual property in the products they ship."
| 
| The only question on PSB's list that I found remotely interesting
| was whether users would be any more likely to buy SuSE Linux as a
| result of the Microsoft-Novell deal. Sixty-nine percent said yes.
| (I'm actually surprised this number isn't higher.)
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=145


Privileged Access on Linux

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| It is the "OpenOffice.org Novell Edition", that is a kind of half fork of the 
| official OpenOffice.org. Novell is pulling the strings to get the Gnome 
| project to adopt its version as the official Gnome OpenOffice. This fork is 
| using the last version of the OOo and adding/changing features to   
| it to create a different product: the "Novell Edition".
| 
| The main difference between the OpenOffice.org Novell Edition and the 
| official version of the project is that the Novell Edition is encouraged to 
| provide import and export to OOXML. Additionally it includes some add-ons 
| that they didn't want to integrate in the official version of OpenOffice.org 
| (indeed they chosed an incompatible license to prevent any kind of 
| integration of their code in the official project). These add-ons can be seen 
| here: http://www.go-oo.org      
| 
| All this strategy of to divide the "instrumental" OOo project probably is 
| under the umbrella of the Microsoft-Novell agreement. 
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-28990/privileged-access-on-linux

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