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[News] Patents Are Adverse to Notion of Standards

  • Subject: [News] Patents Are Adverse to Notion of Standards
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:49:19 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Standardisation Policy More Effective Than Legislation On IP?

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| The balance between the much wanted law-like standards and IPR is difficult, 
| noted the study, because “the underlying philosophies of standardisation and 
| IPR-protection are seen as opposite. Whereas standardisation intends to put 
| ideas into the public domain, protection of IPR makes them private property.” 
| Furthermore, the legal framework of standardisation is blurred, while 
| recognition of private rights over private creations is clear and patent 
| ambushes (patent claims made late in the development of a standardisation 
| process) are prevailing in court cases. The European Commission so far has 
| tried to alleviate the problem by passing so-called FRAND rules that try to 
| ensure “fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory” licensing when it comes to 
| standards. A new ETSI IPR policy adopted in 2006 addressed the problem of IPR 
| owners not agreeing to licences, yet the problem still is not really 
| resolved, according to the study.            
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http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=894

Just ask Samba about it. Another new fart war (Armageddon from which only
lawyers win) here:

Murdoch v Branson in UK TV patent battle

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| It appears that Richard Branson and Rupert Murdoch are still unable to get 
| along together. After last year's battle over whether or not to broadcast Sky 
| channels on Virgin Media's UK cable television network, Rupert is now (at 
| least indirectly) bringing out his IP lawyers in an apparent attempt to 
| threaten Virgin in other ways.    
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http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2008/01/murdoch-v-branson-in-uk-tv-patent.html


Related:

Microsoft patents by Brian Jones

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| For fun we just did a quick search of published US patent applications 
| with "Brian Jones" as an author, and "Microsoft" as the assignee. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| Some of these, like the packing ones, seem to apply directly to OOXML. What 
| isn't clear to us is why Microsoft would pursue patent protection for patents 
| rights that their are promising that they won't assert over users of OOXML.  
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-35323/microsoft-patents-by-brian-jones


Wishful Spinning

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| OOXML gets adopted. More and more projects are started. Let's see which of 
| these would survive without funding. Meanwhile a spin factory sends out 
| success stories that most bloggers find worthless to discuss. It is possible 
| to get the Krauts on board that are supposed to review OOXML but would OOXML 
| survive a review by the crowds?    
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-35292/wishful-spinning


Digging in the Comments: Patents

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| Patent licensing is probably the most important aspect for all third parties 
| that want to implement or use the Open XML specification. Unfortunately the 
| Ballot Resolution Meeting cannot discuss these aspects because only technical 
| and editorial issues would get resolved.   
| 
| [...]
| 
| When you have a patent which covers Open XML and you refuse to license it, 
| the standard process gets stalled. Large companies in the standardization 
| process are reluctant to use that nuke option. Given the ambush that the 
| software patent practice means today it is quite possible that Open XML 
| infringes a patent and all parties eventually have an obligation to license 
| it.     
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-31491/digging-in-the-comments:patents


Patent threat looms large over OOXML

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| "If OOXML goes through as an ISO standard, the IT industry, government and 
| business will encumbered with a 6000-page specification peppered with 
| potential patent liabilities" said NZOSS President Don Christie.  
| 
| "Patent threats have already been used to spread doubt amongst organisations 
| keen to take advantage of the benefits of open source. No one knows whether 
| such claims have any merit, but it is calculated to deter the development and 
| use of open and alternative toolsets."   
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http://nzoss.org.nz/node/179


Cyberlaw OOXML Seminar 14 December

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| However, this raises the issue - what assurance does a developer have that 
| such a large specification is not the subject of third party patent claims?  
|       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| The pedigree of the specification is certainly no reason for hope, Microsoft 
| has been the target of third party patent claims for some time now including 
| some high profile losses in patent suits. The fact that the specification has 
| been developed behind closed doors and on a fast track means that there has 
| been no adequate opportunity to evaluate the likelihood of third party patent 
| claims against the specifications. The sheer size of the document suggests 
| there will be at least a couple hiding in there somewhere.       
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http://brendanscott.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/cyberlaw-ooxml-seminar-14-december/


ISO warned about possible patent violations of DIS29500 (aka OOXML)

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| I have just send the following email to ISO members (you can find some of 
| their email addresses on the INCTIS website) to warn them about the possible  
| patent ambush... 
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http://jeremywang67.blogspot.com/2008/01/iso-warned-about-possible-patent.html

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