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[News] Australia Seems Unsure About OOXML, FSFE and Red Hat Slam It

  • Subject: [News] Australia Seems Unsure About OOXML, FSFE and Red Hat Slam It
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:18:26 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Australia stalls OOXML vote as NZ scratches head

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| With the countdown on to the International Organization for Standardization 
| (ISO) ballot on OOXML, Australia and New Zealand's representatives are 
| keeping their cards close to their chests on which way they will vote.  
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Australia-stalls-OOXML-vote-as-NZ-scratches-head/0,130061733,339286594,00.htm

Interoperability woes with MS-OOXML

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| The proposed MS-OOXML/DIS29500 specification raises serious technical and 
| legal concerns. This context briefing highlights three examples of how the 
| proposed specification and its practical implementation in MS Office 2007 
| hinders interoperability, fosters vendor dependence and results in market 
| distortion.    
| 
| It does not alleviate concerns that at the ISO Ballot Resolution Meeting for 
| the proposed specification more than 1,000 technical concerns and proposed 
| dispositions required discussion. Participants were only able to discuss 
| between 20 to 30 dispositions and to accept approximately 200 minor editorial 
| corrections in the allocated time. Around 900 dispositions were not 
| discussed. 
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http://fsfeurope.org/documents/msooxml-interoperability

OOXML: Why the debate?

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| OOXML–despite its complexity–is not currently well-defined enough to be fully 
| implementable. It would take a great deal of time to resolve all of the 
| issues that have been identified, and the current ballot resolution process 
| simply does not provide enough time to fix these issues and create a truly 
| open standard that all vendors can implement.    
| 
| Next week we will look at the ISO certification process and how Red Hat has 
| been participating in the discussion.  
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http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/03/06/ooxml-why-the-debate/


Recent:

Standards Australia denies OOXML bias

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| Representatives from IBM, Google, Catalyst IT and Waugh Partners expressed 
| their concern the appointment of Topologi director Rick Jelliffe to the 
| delegation was not indicative of the wider industry view on OOXML 
| standardization.   
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http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1735452258&rid=-50


The OOXML BRM and Australia: What happens next

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| Senior project manager at Standards Australia, Panjan Navaratnam, will head 
| the delegation and shoulder the responsibility for all Australian positions. 
| He will be supported in an advisory role by technical expert Rick Jeliffe.  
| 
| Despite some concerns surrounding the objectivity of Jeliffe, Standards 
| Australia insists that its delegates are not participating as an agent of any 
| personal or organisational viewpoint.   
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http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1392366014&rid=-50


Standards Australia defends Jelliffe he has never developed Microsoft products

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| Look at this press release from Standards Australia, it is really funny how 
| they carefully weight their words: 
| 
|     The article also incorrectly describes Rick Jelliffe as a ‘Microsoft 
|     developer’. While Mr Jelliffe consults widely to industry and government 
|     including Microsoft, he has never developed Microsoft products.  
| 
| Let's rewrite it like this to see if it changes something:
| 
|     Rick Jelliffe is not a ‘Microsoft developer’ as such. While Mr Jelliffe 
|     is being paid for consultancy work by Microsoft, he is not developing 
|     Microsoft products.  
| 
| Where is the money?
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-42872/standards-australia-defends-jelliffe:he-has-never-developed-microsoft-products


Microsoft developer joins Aussie OOXML standards delegation

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| Last year Jelliffe was implicated in editing OOXML Wikipedia entries at the 
| request of Microsoft. A public explanation is available on Jelliffe's blog. 
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http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;445400562;fp;16;fpid;1


How to Get Your Platform Accepted as a Standard - Microsoft Style

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| In the section of an internal manual on effective evangelism, written in 1997 
| by James Plamondon, Technical Evangelist, he lays out an elaborate series of 
| steps to get Microsoft's platforms accepted as de facto standards. Among the 
| steps lists are working behind the scenes with supposedly independent but 
| actually pliable and supportive analysts and consultants.    
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071023002351958


Related:

EU Initiates Investigation Against Microsoft OOXML Push

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| But with Steve Ballmer taking over as CEO, there was supposed to be a kinder, 
| gentler Microsoft - one that would play nicely with its competitors.  When 
| antitrust regulators in turn challenged this new Microsoft, it issued not 
| challenges to fight to the end to prove that it had done nothing illegal, but 
| statements promising to "cooperate fully."    
| 
| But at the same time, Microsoft is still a tough competitor.  As Microsoft's 
| Director of Corporate Standards Jason Matusow famously warned at his blog 
| last year:  
| 
|     Make no mistake; all parties are looking at the full picture to find 
|     strategies that will result in the outcome they desire. Provided - of 
|     course - that they do so within the context of the rules that apply to 
|     the process, this is exactly what one should expect to happen. It is 
|     going to be a very interesting next few months.    
| 
| Indeed, the months that followed proved to be interesting indeed.  Microsoft 
| said that some of its employees became over zealous, most flagrantly in 
| Sweden, where marketing assists were promised to several business partners as 
| incentives to join the national standards committee and vote for OOXM.   
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http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080208082501776


EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push

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| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always 
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter 
| Quinn was by no means unique.  
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080208151410252

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