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[News] [Rival] OOXML So-called 'Interoperability' Shamed, Far from Feasible

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] OOXML So-called 'Interoperability' Shamed, Far from Feasible
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:15:07 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Novell ODF Translator and MS Office ODF plugin reviewed

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| His results reveal that conversion needs more attention from developers, esp. 
| now that The Netherlands standardize on ODF - with more public agencies to 
| come. The German Foreign Office migrated to Linux and Open Source solutions. 
| The test results demonstrate that PR stunts won't convince customers that 
| compare the solutions available. The results also indicate that the OOXML 
| conversion will be a non-trivial exercise for competitors. A single 
| international standard could help to reduce the pain.      
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-47061/novell-odf-translator-and-ms-office-odf-plugin-reviewed

Maybe if Microsoft pays enough companies and people to say "interop" (e.g.
Novell, Linspire, Rick Jelliffe), then people will start to believe it.

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Manufac_Consent_Prop_Model.html
Manufacturing Consent: A Propaganda Model


Related:

Bad surprise in Microsoft Office binary documents : interoperability remains
impossible

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| A couple of counter examples have demonstrated that Microsoft Office document 
| interoperability is wishful thinking at this point. The documents made 
| available by Microsoft for direct download won't and shouldn't impress 
| third-party implementers since it does not help much.   
| 
| What is being shown is that in addition to missing documentation, the binary 
| documentations sometimes conflict with the ECMA 376 documentation, itself not 
| a full documentation of the new XML-based formats anyway.  
| 
| Who other than Microsoft is able to reliably migrate formats from binary to 
| XML, and back 
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http://ooxmlisdefectivebydesign.blogspot.com/2008/03/bad-surprise-in-microsoft-office-binary.html


Guest Commentary: The converter hoax

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| Microsoft maintains that while it would have been easy to support the Open 
| Document Format (ODF) natively, it had to move to MS-OOXML because this was 
| the only way for them to offer the full features of its office suite. But if 
| Microsoft itself is not able to represent its internal data structures in the 
| Open Document Format (ODF) in its Microsoft Office suite, how could an 
| external conversion program from MS-OOXML accomplish this task? The answer to 
| both questions is that it is not possible because two things cannot be the 
| same and different at the same time.       
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http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/92735


Proprietizing Standards

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| But when you proprietize standards, you touch me. And that is precisely what 
| is happening with OOXML. Microsoft's own expert at the Portugal meeting said 
| so pointblank: Microsoft will add proprietary extensions, he said, to do 
| things ODF can't do.   
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070720073215943


Russia blindly voted for Microsoft office standard

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| CNews found out the Russian Technical Committee Information Technology, which 
| was to study OpenXML, did not cope with the task in time and handed down no 
| expert opinion. Askold Piavchenko, the Russian Technical Committee 
| Information Technology Chairman tells CNews “they were to speed up OpenXML 
| study, so 6 thousand pages were to be studied in half a year”    
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http://eng.cnews.ru/news/top/indexEn.shtml?2007%2F09%2F12%2F265876


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| To be able to vote all you need is to pay the membership fee to SIS
| and the total cost for this was 17.000 SEK (2444 USD). Of the 23 new
| companies that showed up this last minute and where the majority
| hasn't shown any earlier interest, only Google has a clear agenda
| regarding OOXML and they are against it. Following companies showed
| just before the meeting started:
| 
| Camako Data AB (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), Connecta AB
| (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), Cornerstone Sweden AB (Microsoft
| Gold Certified Partner), Cybernetics (Microsoft Gold Certified
| Partner), Emric AB, Exor AB (Microsoft Certified Partner), Fishbone
| Systems AB (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), Formpipe Software
| (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), FS System AB, Google, HP
| (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), IBizkit AB (Microsoft Certified
| Partner), IDE Nätverkskonsulterna (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner),
| IT-Vision AB, Know IT (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), Modul1
| (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), Nordic Station AB (Microsoft
| Certified Partner), ReadSoft AB (Microsoft Certified Partner), Sogeti
| (Microsoft Gold Certified Partner), Solid Park AB (Microsoft Gold
| Certified Partner), SourceTech AB, Strand Interconnect AB (Microsoft
| Gold Certified Partner) and TietoEnator (Microsoft Gold Certified
| Partner)
| 
| The final result was 25 Yes, 6 No and 3 Abs and this would from the
| start be a done deal of saying No!
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http://www.os2world.com/content/view/14868/1/

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