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[News] [Rival] Microsoft Office and OOXML Losing and Warping Important Data

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Office and OOXML Losing and Warping Important Data
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:53:23 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Scary Non-Warning When Opening all PowerPoint files in the New Formats in
Previous Versions of PowerPoint

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| Here is the message that is presented to users of previous versions of 
| PowerPoint + compatibility pack every time a presentation in the new file 
| format (.pptx) is opened:  
| 
| [...]
| 
| What? Can't see it? That's because THERE ISN'T ONE!
| 
| So, please tell your customers if/when you will ever present a warning 
| message (as Word does every time, and Excel does sometimes) when a previous  
| version of Office + compatibility pack opens files in the new 2007 formats.  
`----

http://dearmicrosoftofficeteam.blogspot.com/

More examples in this page. And a glimpse at OOXML:

OOXML Import In Writer: A Shape Is a Shape, Is a Shape?

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| The example above is only one that depicts a more general problem. The 
| designers of ODF had a file format in mind, that describes data. Hence, when 
| the format describes data with the same semantics, it uses the same syntax. 
| OOXML seems to be designed with the application model in mind. There may be 
| different syntaxes for the same semantics, if it fits the already present 
| application model better. But, if you want to create an alternative 
| implementation for the format, this introduces additional effort.      
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http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/ooxml_import_in_writer_a


Recent:

Breaking News: India's Final Vote On MS Office File Standard Is 'NO'

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| Sources tell tech2.com that with 13 Against, 1 Abstain and 5 For, the 
| technical committee entrusted with deciding whether Microsoft-backed OXML 
| format will be accepted, has stuck by its earlier decision.   
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http://www.tech2.com/india/news/software/breaking-news-indias-final-vote-on-ms-office-file-standard-is-no/32081/0


India Has Voted NO to OOXML

,----[ Quote ]
| It's pitiful if the only way to get people to vote for your format is by 
| confusing them with half-truths. Or worse. Misleading people about what is 
| capable of running your software can get you sued, after all.  
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080320121533442


Related:

OOXML vote in Romania, signs of committee stuffing

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| Today four have joined the committee, all of them seem to be MS partners 
| (Fujitsu-Siemens is one of them, the others are local software companies). 
| The sad thing is that these companies or people have not shown interest in 
| the subject so far, have not participated in the 6 months online debate but 
| are probably going to cast their vote in favor of OOXML . What they are doing 
| is perfectly legal, after all anyone can join the committe, but it's sad to 
| see attempts at public debate and the chances of it changing something 
| getting offset by throwing money at the problem at the last minute.       
| 
| I'll keep an update on how things are progressing and the results and details 
| of the vote when it happens. 
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http://janimo.blogspot.com/2008/03/ooxml-vote-in-romania-signs-of.html


Microsoft admits Swedish employee promised incentives for Open XML support

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| Microsoft Corp. admitted Wednesday that an employee at its Swedish subsidiary 
| offered monetary compensation to partners for voting in favor of the Office 
| Open XML document format's approval as an ISO standard.  
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9033701


Microsoft Looks for the Big Guns in OOXML In-Fighting

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| Bill Gates has reportedly been making phone calls to the Secretary of Defense 
| and the Secretary of Commerce to push the American National Standards 
| Institute to ignore the votes of its advisory committees and vote "yes" on 
| ISO standardizing Microsoft's Open Office XML (OOXML) format, the one in 
| competition with the OpenDocument Format (ODF) pushed by IBM and Sun.    
| 
| Gates reportedly picked up the phone when the last INCITS ballot failed by 
| one vote to support Microsoft. 
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http://xml.sys-con.com/read/419573_p.htm


Microsoft influencing partner NGOs to support OOXML in India

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| Microsoft is encouraging its business partners to promote its Office Open XML 
| specification (OOXML) to the Indian Bureau of Standards (BIS) and Ministry of 
| IT. This move has incensed supporters of the rival OpenDocument Format (ODF) 
| who fear that the "soft" Indian state may not be able to stand up to 
| Microsoft pressure tactics.    
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http://www.linux.com/feature/128528


Microsoft India using NGOs to fake support for OOXML

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-44038/microsoft-india-using-ngos-to-fake-support-for-ooxml


Becoming a better company: Microsoft helps NGOs in India

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| Of course, there has to be some trade-offs, because there should never be 
| free lunch, even for the ones who starve: Microsoft, according to this 
| article, has conditioned its help to Indian NGOs to their support of OOXML. 
| What the NGOs had to do was to send letters of support on OOXML to the 
| federal government of India.    
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http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/02/29/becoming-a-better-company-microsoft-helps-ngos-in-india/


Microsoft "persuades" NGOs to support OOXML

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| Our friends at Linux Delhi have put up a copy of the form letters that 
| Microsoft has been sending NGOs on the OOXML issue. Apparently, these NGOs 
| have been sending copies of these letters to the Ministry of IT and Bureau of 
| Indian standards.    
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http://osindia.blogspot.com/2008/02/microsoft-persuades-ngos-to-support.html


Developers around the world, unite!

,----[ Quote ]
| Monopoly and proprietary software have an advantage in influencing state and 
| governmental institutions because of their large market base and ready 
| capital. Unscrupulous ways of influencing state governments have persisted in 
| India, for example, where executives of proprietary software cajole 
| government heads to promote their brands in lieu of some form of charity 
| given. FLOSS activists must overcome this huge challenge in order to get 
| their philosophy accepted and model implemented for the good of people who 
| are still on the barren side of the digital divide.       
`----

http://thepost.com.pk/OpinionNews.aspx?dtlid=147277&catid=11


Using NGOs to Push Agendas

,----[ Quote ]
| The extent to which Microsoft can go in its efforts to get OOXML is
| interesting. Microsoft has "persuaded" several non-profit organizations to 
| bombard the Indian IT Secretary and the Additional Director General of the 
| Bureau of Indian Standards with letters supporting its OOXML proposal. A copy 
| of the form letter they have been circulating to NGOs is given below. 
| Somebody should interview these NGOs to see how much they really know about 
| OOXML and open standards.      
| 
| The sequence of events leading up to the spamming of GoI? is:
| 
| Letter from an NGO thanking Microsoft (name changed to protect their
| identity) 
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http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/OpenStandards/MsNgoLobby


,----[ Quote ]
| Pieter Hintjens, president of the Foundation for a Free Information 
| Infrastructure, a non-profit organisation that is campaigning against the 
| Microsoft proposal, said: "We've recorded fairly systematic manipulation of 
| the voting process. We've seen what amounts to vote-buying in Italy, 
| Portugal, Colombia, Spain. In Sweden and Denmark, much the same happened – 
| Microsoft paying their business partners to join the vote."     
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http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=FT&Date=20070830&ID=7401878


Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format

,----[ Quote ]
| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above 
| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less 
| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with comments) 
| and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted half (CPI 
| index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46% voted for 
| disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.      
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http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html


Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling 

,----[ Quote ]
| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These 
| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan, 
| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to think 
| that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets pushed 
| through.    
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106

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