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[News] Lots of Skepticism Over Microsoft's Vapourware-like Future 'Support' of ODF

  • Subject: [News] Lots of Skepticism Over Microsoft's Vapourware-like Future 'Support' of ODF
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:46:44 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Microsoft to support ODF and PDF in Office and standards work

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| Don't get too excited by this outbreak of peace. SP2 isn’t due until the 
| first half of 2009, meaning you've got a good year before you can save an 
| Office 2007 document using ODF. Ahead of that lies SP1, due at the beginning 
| of June.   
| There is also no word on if, or when, SPs will be delivered that bring ODF 
| and PDF to the vast install base of customers and developers working with 
| older versions of Office.  
| Accordingly, the ODF Alliance, the group of vendors and national bodies 
| leading ODF, has warned against premature celebrations saying we should wait 
| and see what Microsoft actually delivers in SP2. ODF Alliance managing 
| director Marino Marcich said the proof of Microsoft’s commitment to openness 
| would be whether ODF support is on a par with Open XML.    
| He pointed to Microsoft's promise two years ago to support ODF, when it 
| backed an existing BSD project for an Open XML Translator. The project, to 
| deliver an Office add-on to save documents in ODF, is also due in the first 
| half of 2009. That software has not been finished, and it’s not clear whether 
| today’s announcement for support will use the translator.    
| “Until Microsoft enables Office users to create and save in ODF by default as 
| easily and fully as in Microsoft's own formats, governments will continue to 
| adopt a 'buyer beware' attitude,” Marcich said in a statement.  
| Significantly, Microsoft is not quite ready to give up on its ODF rival, Open 
| XML, that it's been busy railroading through standards bodies across the 
| globe.  


My take on why Microsoft finally decided to support ODF

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| Indeed, while OOXML has garnered enough votes to pass, several major 
| countries including China, India, and Brazil among others, voted against it. 
| It is safe to assume that, in accordance with the opinion the expressed 
| through this vote, those countries will not adopt OOXML as a national 
| standard either. India has already decided so for one. I know the same is 
| true for South Africa. The same will probably be true for others.     
| Now, think about this for a minute. This is a huge market that Microsoft 
| cannot address with Office as it stands. Can they really disregard a market 
| that size? I don’t think so. If not, what can they do about it?  
| Well, they can keep trying to fight countries decisions not to adopt OOXML 
| but if they haven’t managed to achieve that already, despite all the efforts 
| they put in, including some rather unethical if not illegal ones, their 
| chances of success on that front are pretty slim.   


Microsoft to make Office open to ODF format

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| Ivar Jachwitz, the deputy managing director of Standards Norway, the 
| country's national standards setting body which adopted ODF as a recommended 
| format for government archives, said the final proof of Microsoft's 
| commitment to ODF and interoperability will be seen next year, when the 
| updated version of Office 2007 reaches consumers."We have heard a lot of 
| promises from Microsoft but as of yet, we are hoping for results," Jachwitz 
| said.      


Microsoft says they will support ODF natively, join OASIS ODF committee?

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| In the interest of providing a bit more to think about beyond what was 
| evidently said on this, here are a few open questions: 
|     * What are the plans for supporting ODF 1.2, now reaching completion in 
|     OASIS? 
|     * Will it be extraordinarily easy for users to set ODF as the default 
|     save format so that this becomes regular practice for most people? 
|     * Will there eventually be backwards native support in versions of Office 
|     before 2007, or will people need to upgrade? 
|     * Hey, Apple, what about you? Let’s see you do this in iWork!



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| From nathanm Mon Oct 01 11:42:05 1990
| To: billg; bradsi;
| Subject: SPARC, MIPS & Compaq
| DateL Tue Oct 02, 22:57:14 1990
| [...]
| The purpose of announcing early like this is to freeze the market at the
|                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| OEM and ISV level. In this respect it is JUST like the original Windows
| announcement ..
| One might worry that this will help Sun because we will just have
|                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| vaporware, that people will stop buying 486 machines, that we will have
| ^^^^^^^^^
| endorsed RISC but not delivered .. So, Scott, do you really think you
| can fight that avalanche?

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