High Plains Thumper <highplainsthumper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>
>>> A computer needs to be as simple to use as an appliance.
>>> Whenever you switch it on, it enters a mode of full
>>> operation.
>>
>> Whatever that means. Most people dont give a tuppence - they
>> want their application SW to work.
>>
>>> When you install software on it, everything should be set up
>>> completely, without a hitch.
>>>
>>> Failing to achieve a simple installation, it's clear that
>>> something is amiss.
>>
>> Err, yeah ...
>>
>>> PCs should be sold separately from software. If the software
>>> is trivial to install, then it can be offered as an option
>>> alongside hardware. It only takes minuted to install from a
>>> CD-ROM.
>>
>> Most people dont want to have to do that. Installing the OS is
>> a job for jobsworth tape monkeys. Most people want the PC
>> ready out of the box for them to install and configure their
>> application SW which offers them their market advantage when
>> used properly.
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=4&Nav=|c:2814|&Recs=30
>
> PC's configured with Linux:
So you disagree with Roy too? Good.
>
> [quote]
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> [/quote]
>
>>> A good set of software can also include customised images
>>> and plenty of software of interest, such as an office suite.
>>
>> Is this you trying to do a "Terry"?
>
> ???
>
>>> Why can't PCs be sold without an operating system? Because,
>>> as Microsoft wishfully argues, customers would struggle to
>>> install the operating system.
>>
>> PCs are sold without OSen. All the time. Try looking. But its
>> all about choice. And most people just want a PC with Windows.
>> Sad, but true.
>
> Not true. See above listing.
That list proves nothing other than some PCs ship with Linux. As we all
know. And I said hundreds of times here when people whined about
Microsoft's "monopoly". It most certainly does not magically disprove
that MOST people want Windows since its what they are used to. Or do you
deny this?
>
>>> So make it easier.
>>>
>>> Windows will continue to be a hard-to-install mess as long
>>> as it provides this argument that Joe Sixpack can't have it
>>> installed.
>>
>> Huh? What ARE you talking about?!?!?!?!?
>>
>>> In other words, as long as Windows is bad, it's more likely
>>> to be bundled, without the offering of choice.
>>>
>>> Apple and its separate universe of 'xenophobic' hardware and
>>> software is another matter altogether.
>>
>> Yes. It just works and is gaining Market Share at quite a
>> rate. But you knew it uses standard Intel too ow didn't you?
>> No? Oh dear me ....
>
> Interesting that the focus is on "Market Share", which implies
> specific profit.
Only to a complete dribbling moron who can not understand the meaning in
context.
>
>>> Should houses also be built with furniture bolted in? Or
>>> restaurant serve just one meal because choice is bad and
>>> cooking is too complicated?
>>
>> Is that supposed to be an analogy? If so it was incredibly
>> bad.
>
> Yet does not explain why.
>
>> New houses DO come with electrictiy and water however ....
>
> ???
You really can not join the dots? Is it really too complicated?!?!?!
Look : electricity, pipes, ducts etc are the core "come with the house"
items. Think of it like a base OS.
If anything Linux preinstalled is LESS choice since it invariably comes
with a bunch of apps you might NOT want!
Do try and think once in a while.
>
>>> Being a norm does not make anything right or acceptable.
>>
>> You're a pretentious idiot.
>
> Then ends with insult. Rather sad this troll cannot respect the
> individual and cannot sufficiently discuss the merits or demerits of a
> poster's arguments.
His post was inconsistent and misleading. The analogy was awful. The
contents false. What else can I say?
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