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[News] [Rival] Microsoft's Internet Crimes Remain Unresolved

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IE must comply with web standards. (Opera has suggested that Microsoft must
support web standards they have promised to support).

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| This potential principle has received the most criticism from the Mozilla 
| community to date; there appears to be little support for this principle as a 
| basis from legal requirements from the EC.  This is quite different from 
| agreeing that:   
| 
|     * Microsoft *should* implement critical web standards; and that
|     * the web has been, and continues to be, held back by the lack of good 
|       standards support in IE. 
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http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2009/04/09/ie-must-comply-with-web-standards-opera-has-suggested-that-microsoft-must-support-web-standards-they-have-promised-to-support/


Recent:

Microsoft hijacks now web standards and the W3C: -m$ fonts?

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| Microsoft has a tradition now with OOXML to hijack standard bodies. W3C is
| probably in the list, since they managed now to embrace and extend CSS 2.1
| with their Microsoft fonts.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-89497/microsoft-hijacks-now-web-standards-and-the-w3c:m-fonts


Microsoft's IE not good enough for web creator

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| SIR TIM BERNERS LEE, inventor of the Interwibble and current director of the
| World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) has a gripe with the Vole’s Internet Explorer
| browser.
|
| In a recent interview, the creator of the great WWW, noted that although he
| was loath to specifying his preference of web browser, IE just wasn’t up to
| scratch when it came to graphics encoding.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/11/microsoft-ie-enough-web-creator
http://tinyurl.com/4898oc


Microsoft breaks IE8 interoperability promise

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| This week, the promise was broken. It lasted less than six months. Now that
| Internet Explorer IE8 beta 2 is released, we know that many, if not most,
| pages viewed in IE8 will not be shown in standards mode by default. The dirty
| secret is buried deep down in the «Compatibility view» configuration panel,
| where the «Display intranet sites in Compatibility View» box is checked by
| default. Thus, by default, intranet pages are not viewed in standards mode.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/hakon_lie_ie8_interoperability/


Related:

Users, Web developers vent over IE7

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| Users of Internet Explorer 7 (IE7) turned a blog post by a Microsoft program
| manager into a complaint free-for-all that took the company to task for not
| following through on browser upgrade promises and alienating Web developers.  
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http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1740365349&rid=-50


IE7 still creating problems for developers?

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| For the last couple of years, we developers have been struggling with
| IE incompatibilities while creating and testing our sites. Those
| include the non-native support for PNG transparencies, the box model
| bug, and many many more.
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http://devthought.com/ie7-still-creating-problems-for-developers/


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| From:       Bill Gates
| Sent:       Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To:         Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc:         Paul Mariz
| Subject:    Office rendering
|
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
|
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
|
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to  to destroy Windows.
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf


CLARION CALL: IE 7 Not Ready For Prime Time

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| Either leave your dog at home, or make sure it's trained better
| before inviting it into my house to make a mess on my carpet.
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http://saunderslog.com/2006/10/18/clarion-call-ie-7-not-ready-for-prime-time/


IE7 Web Developers Nightmare

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| IE7 is a night mare for most of the developers that try to comply
| with standards for crossbrowsing.
| I recently needed to rewrite a web site so it works on firefox too...
| the surprising element was that when testing the new and the old site
| on IE7 I found out that many things does not function as expected and
| "not function as expected" isn't the right word for it, it was more
| a question of working at all.
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http://it-gears.blogspot.com/2007/01/ie7-nightmare-for-web-developers.html


Why Microsoft Expression Web redefines irony

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| Expression is Microsoft's suite of web development tools slated to
| replace the wonderful application known as Front Page. A quick visit
| to the site for this tool yields a fairly typical Microsoft webpage.
|
| [...]
|
| WHOA! Did they not even listen to their own marketing garbage? 144
| Errors! No DocType? Are you kidding me?
|
| [...]
|
| Bravo to our good friends at Microsoft for setting such a great example
| and leading the masses to a more standards compliant internet! (and
| for giving web standards geeks something to hate on).
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http://shifteleven.com/articles/2006/11/16/why-microsoft-expression-web-redefines-irony


Wake up and smell the IE7!

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| The results of our study suggest that around 12.7 million websites are
| in need of a little TLC because of IE7. Maybe even more.
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http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/wake-up-and-smell-the-ie7


Funny Thing - M$

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| Last night Joe and I got in this huge discussion, and I was cursing out
| Microsoft. It’s been rough the past couple of days and M$ has not been making
| my life very easy. Every time I turn around I have to ghetto-fy my web sites
| to make them work in IE…  
|
| See… There are these things called Web Standards which were put into place to
| make web designer’s lives easier. As in, if they script to web standards,
| then all standards compliant browsers will show the site exactly correct.
| Well, I always script to web standards. The PROBLEM is that Microsoft decides
| that they are just going to do things THEIR way...    
|
| [...]
|
| Besides the fact that all of the Microsoft employees I have ever encountered
| must have been brainwashed. I don’t know where they dig these people up.
|
| [...]
|
| And if they AREN’T brainwashing them, then they are just hiring incompetant,
| pompous dumbasses. And if either is the case, why should anyone support their
| company?  
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http://www.camp-site.org/blog/?p=21


Vista IE7 issue remains unsolved for many users

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| When I read stuff like this, it confirms my belief that there’s something
| very broken in the world of Vista. Here’s a very knowledgeable user and
| talented developer who’s confounded and befuddled by a well-documented and
| still unaddressed issue affecting Vista users running Internet Explorer 7.  
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http://techomg.com/vista-ie7-issue-remains-unsolved-for-many-users/


ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

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| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTML_Hijack/1169824569


Is Microsoft learning from Web standards mistakes?

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| In a video interview with ZDNet Australia last month, Microsoft blogger and
| group manager of technical community, Frank Arrigo, explained how important
| it is for the Redmond giant to follow Web standards.  
|
| "Standards are important," said Arrigo, who admitted that Microsoft had been
|                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| guilty of ignoring them in the past. "If you look at IE6, we didn't quite
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| follow all the standards but standards are important ... IE7 as an example is
| trying to address that."  
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Is-Microsoft-learning-from-Web-standards-mistakes-/0,130061733,339280240,00.htm
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