-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Fedora casts Mono into outer darkness
,----[ Quote ]
| Red Hat's community GNU/Linux distribution, Fedora, has decided to replace
| the Mono-dependent note-taking application Tomboy with Gnote in upcoming
| releases, according to a message posted to the Fedora Desktop mailing list.
|
| Red Hat developer Matthias Clasen wrote: "I have now changed the default
| panel configuration in F12 to include Gnote instead of Tomboy, and changed
| comps to make Gnote default and Tomboy optional."
|
| F12 refers to Fedora 12; the current version is Fedora 10. Gnote is a port of
| Tomboy in C++/Gtkmm and was recently released by former Novell developer
| Hubert Figuiere. There are fears around Mono that it may be subject to patent
| claims by Microsoft down the track.
`----
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25469/1090/
Richard Chapman:
,----[ Quote ]
| Why in the world would any true blue Linux user want to use anything related
| to mono/Microsoft. It's a trap! Go back before it's too late! I have heard
| Miguel de Icaza speak of Microsoft in glowing terms. It almost sounds like
| worship. It makes me wonder why he hasn't left Novell for a job at Microsoft.
| My conclusion: He's worth more to Microsoft where he is. I know many people
| just look a the technical side of things and harbor no ill feelings towards
| one side or the other. That's the way Microsoft would like everyone to see
| things. If that were the case then they could do their "work" unhindered by
| sticky matters of market dominance or even monopoly being raised. I don't
| need any more reasons to dislike Microsoft but they keep giving them to me
| anyway. Microsoft is bad. Bad for business. Bad for your mental health. When
| Microsoft is gone, or gone enough, the World will be a much better place.
| People and businesses will wonder how they ever got any work done in
| Microsoft's prison.
`----
http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=13856#p49347
Recent:
Even OpenSUSE recognises drawbacks of Mono
,----[ Quote ]
| Mention Mono in a story and you are certain to draw two kinds of readers -
| the followers, those who have drunk the kool-aid ladled out by Novell
| vice-president Miguel de Icaza, and the detractors, who realise that it could
| cause them patent headaches a few years hence.
|
| [...]
|
| Easy-LTSP was originally written in C# but, according to the OpenSUSE
| project "Easy-LTSP was designed to work on any distribution, but
| unfortunately it is not integrated anywhere other than openSUSE, discussing
| with the upstream LTSP developers suggested the slight reservation could be
| due to it being written in C#."
|
| Easy-LTSP is being rewritten to include new features and OpenSUSE has now
| decided to use Python instead, "which would be easier to attract more
| contributors and increase possibility that users of all distributions running
| LTSP server can benefit from it inclusion in their preferred distro."
`----
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25434/1148/
How GNU/Linux users can keep Mono at bay
,----[ Quote ]
| GNU/Linux users who want to keep Mono off their systems can now use an
| application that warns them when elements of the open source clone of
| Microsoft's .NET development environment are being installed.
|
| Developer Tim Chase, who describes himself as "a genetic geek", has created a
| package called Mononono which creates explicit conflicts with core Mono
| packages.
`----
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25352/1090/
Strip Mono from Ubuntu and prevent it to come back
,----[ Quote ]
| Really. This stuff is bloody serious, I mean.. will remove f-spot! And other
| stuff. You could also not be able to have sex with more than a partner at
| time anymore. Use it with care. I also won’t able to give you support to any
| issue you may experience.
|
| The day it will require you to remove the whole gnome, instead, you’ll know
| we’re in big troubles.
`----
http://www.stefanoforenza.com/remove-mono-from-ubuntu/
Gnote 0.4.0
http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2009/05/27/670-gnote-040
Striking the Right Gnote
,----[ Quote ]
| Not that Figuiere is a Mono advocate. But his opposition over the years has
| been more practical than philosophical. For instance, in several discussion
| threads about Including Mono in GNOME on the desktop-devel-list in July 2006,
| Figuiere objected to shipping Mono-based apps on the grounds that the
| language required a lot of disk space, but was supporting only minor
| applications -- and he made the same objection to Python, a far less
| contentious programming language.
|
| This objection, incidentally, is one that he continues to hold today. Gnote,
| he tells me, "has all to do with the burden of carrying runtime systems
| designed to make the programmer's life easier (but not the users'). Had
| Tomboy been written in Python, it would have gotten the same treatment."
|
| Of course, Figuiere might have soured on Mono after being laid off at Novell
| in February. But, if he did, it would be strange if he continued to use what
| he describes as an "openSUSE 11.1 custom build with SUSE Studio with some
| custom packages" -- free software versions of Novell's own products.
`----
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3822091/Striking-the-Right-Gnote.htm
Getting to know Gnote
,----[ Quote ]
| What is a big deal is that Gnote does what I need it to do. The controvery
| surrounding it be hanged (and you can use your favourite search engine to
| learn about the controversy). I like Gnote. It’s useful. And until something
| better comes along, it’s going to be my note application of choice
`----
http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/?p=444
The elusive, royalty-free patent licence for Mono
,----[ Quote ]
| How difficult or easy is it to obtain one of the much-touted "royalty-free,
| reasonable and non-discriminatory" licences for Microsoft patents that are
| part of a technology like Mono?
|
| Judging by the frequency with which references are made to such licences by
| those who back Novell vice-president Miguel de Icaza's bid to create an open
| source clone of Microsoft's .NET development environment, it's surprising
| that no-one has ever ventured to test this claim.
|
| The idea of trying to find out what was involved arose after reading a nearly
| nine-month old, well-written post defending the use of Mono and mocking its
| detractors. The author, Jo Shields, is a Debian developer and works for
| Oxford University.
|
| [...]
|
| He replied two days later, pointing out, "Ecma does not have anything to do
| with possible licensing of .NET. But Microsoft is one of our members, so I
| have asked them whom to contact there – if anything is needed, what I just do
| not know."
|
| Dr Sebestyn added: "My contact at Microsoft said that you should contact
| Peggy Moloney there, who would be able to help you."
|
| I wrote to Ms Moloney on April 28, asking for the same information: "I
| understand that the terms of the licences to the patents which Microsoft
| holds on the .NET development platform permit people to obtain a
| royalty-free, reasonable and non-discriminatory licence to use them. I would
| be grateful if you let me know exactly how one obtains such a licence."
|
| I also asked her about the variance in the terms for the licensing of
| Moonlight, a clone of Microsoft's Silverlight, using which the company hopes
| to capture the market that is dominated by Adobe's Flash. De Icaza is behind
| this project as well.
|
|
| [...]
|
| There's a been a deafening silence since then. There the matter stands after
| nearly a month. You would think that's a decent period for anyone to think
| things through and respond - if the intention of doing so exists.
|
| To me, it looks this licence is as real as the unicorn. Or maybe Santa Claus.
| I think Mono fans need to think of a fresh defence when people talk about the
| dangers of patent suits arising over this technology. The licence talk has
| worn more than a little thin.
`----
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
iEYEARECAAYFAkooTngACgkQU4xAY3RXLo40BQCeKCQiqCdhE0cjEQSpCbmFgUUm
khkAnRqvo//Rzfi1sMX7uDSPLVmZ6aLV
=7hj7
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
|
|
