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[News] [Rival] Xbox 360 In Its Death Throes, Sales Predicted to be Poor

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Xbox 360 In Its Death Throes, Sales Predicted to be Poor
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:53:11 +0100
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Is the Xbox 360 In Its Death Throes? 

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has made it clear that they 
| believe Kinect to be the shot in the arm the 
| Xbox 360 needs to remain relevant for 
| another half-decade. Market research firm 
| DFC Intelligence disagrees, and believes 
| that the Xbox's best days are behind it, and 
| Microsoft has hitched its gaming wagon to an 
| old and dying horse. 
`----

http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=19309

Why Did Microsoft Kill Xbox Live?

http://www.platformnation.com/2010/06/29/why-did-microsoft-kill-xbox-live/

Crackdown 2 Soundtrack Confirmed By Microsoft Is Terrible

http://www.ripten.com/2010/07/03/crackdown-2-soundtrack-confirmed-by-microsoft-is-terrible-cody0529/

Microsoft Xbox 360 to Suffer Fall in Sales: DFC 

,----[ Quote ]
| DFC Intelligence, the analysis firm, has 
| estimated that Xbox 360 is likely to lose 
| its demands shortly. In the upcoming months, 
| it is going to lose its market to rivals, 
| added DFC.
`----

http://topnews.us/content/223287-microsoft-xbox-360-suffer-fall-sales-dfc

Microsoft Xbox 360 Set To Decline Says Analyst Firm

,----[ Quote ]
| Industry Market Analyst DFC Intelligence has 
| issued a note saying that Microsoft's 
| flagship gaming console, the Xbox 360, has 
| already passed its peak and is set to weaken 
| over the next few years.
| 
| The brief, Gamasutra reports, says that 
| Kinect, the newly announced peripheral, will 
| have a neglible impact on the sales of the 
| Xbox before adding that "The Xbox 360 has 
| some good years left, but the platform is 
| clearly on the downside of its lifecycle".
`----

http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/7/2/microsoft-xbox-360-set-decline-says-analyst-firm/

Analyst: Xbox 360 'Clearly On The Downside Of Its Lifecycle'

,----[ Quote ]
| But despite its efforts to move beyond its 
| core gamer demographic, Microsoft will 
| struggle to make its console relevant to the 
| mass market, as the Xbox 360 moves into its 
| fifth year, according to one analyst.
`----

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29200/Analyst_Xbox_360_Clearly_On_The_Downside_Of_Its_Lifecycle.php

Has the Xbox 360 hit the "downside" of its lifecycle?

,----[ Quote ]
| DFC Intelligence believes the Xbox 360 may 
| have "some" good years left, but estimates 
| the console is on the "downside" of its 
| lifecycle - despite the advent of 
| Microsoft's Kinect platform.
`----

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/50472-has-the-xbox-360-hit-the-downside-of-its-lifecycle

Kinect will struggle to hit mass market

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft may struggle to take the Xbox 360 
| to the mass market level and it's likely 
| that Kinect, the new Xbox controller, may 
| have a "negligible impact" - that's 
| according to market analysts DFC 
| Intelligence.
`----

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/07/01/kinect-will-struggle-to-hit-mass-market/1

Microsoft Kinect Pre-orders Disappointing?

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft might have made a major mistake by 
| pricing the Microsoft Kinect as high as 
| $149, a price that means that the peripheral 
| could well carry a suggested retail price of 
| around Â129.99 in the UK.
| 
| [...]
| 
| He added that pre-orders, at least for 
| Shopto, are currently very low.
`----

http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/7/1/microsoft-kinect-pre-orders-disappointing/

High Kinect Price Leads To Low Pre-Orders

,----[ Quote ]
| The Kinect has garnered mixed reviews since 
| it was fully unveiled at E3. Fudzilla 
| reports that the biggest issue the motion-
| capture peripheral faces may be due to its 
| high price tag. The Kinect is set to retail 
| for $149, although Microsoft is adamant that 
| the price could change before launch.
`----

http://www.i4u.com/article35880.html

Kinect tech specs reveal 2-player limit? - Retail Radar

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6267556.html

Kinect's Lack of Price a Concern for THQ

http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=19314

Kinect will struggle to hit mass market

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft may struggle to take the Xbox 360 
| to the mass market level and it's likely 
| that Kinect, the new Xbox controller, may 
| have a "negligible impact" - that's 
| according to market analysts DFC 
| Intelligence.
`----

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/07/01/kinect-will-struggle-to-hit-mass-market/1

Molyneux says Milo tech 'does work' and is still set for release

,----[ Quote ]
| Conflicting reports from Microsoft PR
`----

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/molyneux-says-milo-tech-does-work-and-is-still-set-for-release-700015

Does GameStop Promote Microsoft Over Sony?

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is into giving gifts. Just ask 
| anyone who goes to any trade shows or anyone 
| who has worked for a GameStop or EB in the 
| past decade or so. I was working at an EB 
| when the first Xbox launched and to help 
| promote it, Microsoft reps handed a ton of 
| goodies to EB managers and assistant 
| managers at the annual company meeting. Just 
| recently, when I was down to GameStop, the 
| employees were talking about their upcoming 
| meeting in July, and they all fully expect 
| to get preferential treatment from the big 
| M$.
`----

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/7340.html

Bribing of journalists pays off?

Catch-up:

Microsoft: Anything Sony can do, We can too! 

http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=19280

Halo says goodbye to Microsoft:

Microsoft Creating New Studio to Take the Halo Helm

http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/halo-project/1103343p1.html


Recent:

New Xbox 360 Shuts Down to Prevent Red Ring of Death

http://www.examiner.com/x-54386-Raleigh-Xbox-360-Examiner~y2010m6d21-New-Xbox-360-Shuts-Down-to-Prevent-Red-Ring-of-Death


New XBox 360 Adds Long-Overdue Thermal Monitoring

http://hothardware.com/News/New-XBox-360-Adds-LongOverdue-Thermal-Monitoring/


New Xbox 360 Elite console problems - Red Ring of Death RROD issue (VIDEO)

,----[ Quote ]
| Many video game users are eager to get
| their hands on the brand new Xbox 360
| system and the upcoming Microsoft Kinect.
| However, it appears that the old Xbox 360
| Red ring of death aka "RROD" has shown its
| ugly self already, and just days after some
| owners have plugged in their new consoles!
`----

http://technology.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978326168


Xbox 360 red rings of death replaced with red eye of doom

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33830/xbox-360-slim-red-eye


Xbox 360 Slim - "Red Eye" replaces "Red Ring of Death"

http://www.techdigest.tv/2010/06/xbox_360_slim_-.html


Xbox 360 3 Red Lights

http://www.burnetbulletin.com/pages/ad_details/listing_details?id=27749468-xbox-360-3-red-lights


Hey Microsoft, what am I supposed to do with all these Xbox 360 faceplates now?

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-21539_7-20008451-10391702.html



Is Microsoft Kinect Already A Failure?

http://www.katonda.com/news/22/2010/1298


The Problem with Kinect and Motion Controls

http://www.damnlag.com/the-problem-with-kinect-and-motion-controls/


Microsoftâs Shady Kinect Pricing: What Gives?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/199702/microsofts_shady_kinect_pricing_what_gives.html?tk=hp_new


Playing Catch-Up With Wii

,----[ Quote ]
| The current generation of consoles were
| launched at the annual E3 show in 2005. And
| at this yearâs E3, they didnât showcase any
| completely new ideas. Instead, they
| designed new features and peripherals to
| extend the old modelâs lives and broaden
| their appeal.
`----

http://www.investmentu.com/2010/June/sony-tells-microsoft-wii-have-a-problem.html


Square Says âNoâ to Xbox 360 Version of FFXIV

http://www.ripten.com/2010/06/21/square-says-no-to-plans-for-a-xbox-version-of-ffxiv-gavin-b/


Square Enix To Allow Free Trading: Is This The Reason That 360 Has Had Its Final Fantasy?

http://www.platformnation.com/2010/06/25/square-enix-to-allow-free-trading-is-this-the-reason-that-360-has-had-its-final-fantasy/


MMOs Say No To 360: Devs Cite Microsoft Subscription Fee Cut Demands

,----[ Quote ]
| Wondering why Square Enixâs Final Fantasy
| XIV isnât coming to Xbox 360, or why
| Cryptic canceled the release of their own
| MMO, Champions Online, for the Microsoft
| console? The answer might be as simple as
| money.
`----

http://www.ripten.com/2010/06/24/microsoft-subscription-fee-cut-demands-leading-mmo-devs-to-pass-on-360/


Nintendo Wii Continues Outplaying Microsoft Xbox and Sony PlayStation

http://www.investorplace.com/experts/anthony_agnello/nintendo-ntdoy-wii-video-game-console-microsoft-xbox-sony-playstation-msft-sne.html


The Red Brick Of Death (New Xbox 360 Already 'RROD')

http://gamingbolt.com/2010/06/24/the-red-brick-of-death-new-xbox-360-already-rrodd/


Kinect Unfairly Compared To...A Sofa

,----[ Quote ]
| For snots and giggles, this comparison between
| a sofa and Microsoft's Kinect has appeared on
| the internet. Just because Kinect apparently
| doesn't play nice with couch potatoes, that
| doesn't mean it cannot be compared to couches.
`----

http://kotaku.com/5569419/kinect-unfairly-compared-toa-sofa


Sony Has Open Net as Kinect Fails to Impress

,----[ Quote ]
| According to reports, the Kinect
| presentation began with all attendees
| having to put on white robes followed by
| an odd Circe de Soleil-type presentation
| and then finally followed by gameplay.
`----

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/06/14/sony-has-open-net-as-kinect-fails-to-impress/


Microsoftâs Kinect for Xbox 360: Why it will fail

,----[ Quote ]
| Earlier this week we learned that
| Microsoft renamed its Project Natal for
| the Xbox 360 â Kinect. This is their
| latest attack against Nintendo and Sony to
| stay ahead of the game â as they have such
| high hopes for their motion controlled
| gaming technology. However, John C. Dvorak
| from PC Mag believes that it will fail â
| judging by the comments he is the only one
| who thinks that.
`----

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/06/17/microsofts-kinect-for-xbox-360-why-it-will-fail/


Microsoft Kinect E3: Something is Wrong

,----[ Quote ]
| After examining and trying camera Kinect
| introduced by Microsoft, I came to the
| conclusion that it is designed for women,
| kids, the whole families â but not for
| men. Now Iâll explain why.
`----

http://www.latestngadgets.com/microsoft-kinect-e3-something-is-wrong/5261.html


At E3, Nintendo shows it gets what Microsoft, Sony donât

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoftâs Xbox division is really,
| really proud of its new motion-control
| tech, Kinect, but are not entirely
| convinced the future of gaming will
| consist of people standing in front of toy
| cameras and dancing for points. In case
| that doesnât go exactly as expected
| (cough) they have a plan B: milk those hit
| franchise sequels!
`----

http://www.straight.com/article-330024/vancouver/e3-nintendo-shows-it-gets-what-microsoft-sony-dont


Microsoft Removes Red Ring from New Xbox 360

http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-removes-red-ring-from-new-xbox-360-1790374/


New Xbox 360 won't red-ring even if it wants to

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-21539_7-20008087-10391702.html


Xbox 360 slim can't red-ring by design

,----[ Quote ]
| The absolute impossibility of the red ring
| isn't by virtue of the console being
| failure-proof--that has yet to be
| determined. It's because the new console has
| no red LEDs at all. According to a spec
| sheet obtained by gaming blog Joystiq, the
| new console has only green LEDs in the ring
| on its front.
`----

http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6266498/xbox-360-slim-cant-red-ring-by-design


Microsoft fixes Xbox RROD... by removing the red light

,----[ Quote ]
| One interesting factoid is the decision to
| remove the red lights from the console.
| Effectively making it incapable of showing
| the dreaded 'red ring of death' should your
| new slim Xbox 360 decide to overheat and
| crap out on you.
`----

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/microsoft-fixes-rrod-by-removing-red-lights-from-new-xbox-697196


New Xbox 360 said to 'still scratch discs'

,----[ Quote ]
| The crucial point here is that the Xbox
| currently - and will presumably continue to
| - come with a sticker warning punters not to
| move the machine while a disc is spinning.
| Microsoft acknowledged the problem in 2008,
| but so few folk feel the need to knock their
| consoles around while playing games that the
| issue has affected a relatively small number
| of people.
`----

http://www.reghardware.com/2010/06/17/new_xbox_360_disc_scratch/


Is Microsoft's Xbox 360 Slim Press Giveaway a Bribe?

,----[ Quote ]
| It just seemed so very strange, watching
| everyone clapping, cheering, leaping out of
| their seats, as if we were all on Oprah, and
| she'd just announced that everyone in the
| viewing audience was getting a brand new
| car. Except this wasn't Oprah, and we
| weren't the "viewing audience." We were
| there to absorb and critique Microsoft's
| announcements and claims.  Is this where
| we're headed? Game shows with prize
| giveaways?
`----

http://www.pcworld.com/article/198959/is_microsofts_xbox_360_slim_press_giveaway_a_bribe.html?tk=hp_blg


Survey Indicates 42% of All 360 Owners Have Console Problems

,----[ Quote ]
| It's a sight Xbox 360 gamers dread: the power
| button glowing with three red rings. According
| to the largest survey of its kind, we now know
| how prevalent the RROD and other hardware
| problems are: 42% of all 360 owners have had
| their consoles repaired or replaced.
`----

http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/home/


Microsoft Cuts XBOX Live From Original XBOX Console

http://erictric.com/2010/04/14/microsoft-cuts-xbox-live-from-original-xbox-console/


Microsoft To Pull The Plug On Xbox Live For The Original Xbox Tonight

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/04/microsoft_to_pull_the_plug_on_xbox_live_for_the_original_xbox_tonight.html


Xbox 360 Coffin is a Final Resting Place After RRoD

,----[ Quote ]
| These days Microsoft is no longer shipping
| gamers who have a dead Xbox 360 a postage-
| paid cardboard packing box (affectionately
| called the "coffin") for the return of the
| console. While Microsoft still pays for
| shipping both ways, it's up to the console
| owner to provide the packing materials for
| the trip back to the repair center.
`----

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/xbox-360-coffin-rrod-warranty,news-6134.html


Which Xbox 360 Red Ring Of Death Fix To Choose - Microsoft or DIY Repair?

http://www.thepress.net/pages/ad_details/listing_details?id=20135598-which-xbox-360-red-ring-of-death-fix-to-choose---microsoft-or-diy-repair


Xbox 360 Red Ring Of Death Fix - Looking For Microsoft Repair Center Phone Number?

http://www.gamekicker.com/Xbox-360/Xbox-360-Red-Ring-Of-Death-Fix-Looking-For-Microsoft-Repair-Center-Phone-Number


Need Your Refurbished Xbox 360 Expedited? Call This Number

http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=18622


Microsoft Responds To Recent Xbox Live Drama

http://www.talkxbox.com/article3699.html


Hard luck with Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| Many in the gaming community are familiar with
| a common pitfall of the Xbox 360. Gamers know
| the syndrome simply as âthe red rings of
| death.â The issue is common and easily
| remedied, and is a problem that the newest
| generations of Xbox 360s are supposedly free
| of.
|
| So I rested easy after purchasing my 360
| Arcade and a 20-gigabyte hard drive last
| winter, knowing that the folks at Microsoft
| had eliminated this frustrating problem.
|
| Much to my dismay, I recently powered-on my
| system and was greeted with a distressing
| noise. I waited and waited but the system
| never advanced past the logo screen. After 5
| minutes of troubleshooting, the screen flashed
| to black with the words âerror 67â emblazoned
| near the bottom.
|
| Shit, I thought. Red rings of death I can deal
| with, but what is this âerror 67?â This
| experience would lead me to verify what I had
| long suspected: Microsoft isnât as keen on
| satisfying their customers as they may appear
| to be.
`----

http://www.uwmpost.com/2010/02/08/hard-luck-with-microsoft/


Microsoft Losing its Fame

,----[ Quote ]
| Players face a lot of technical errors.
| Microsoft must offer some kind of substitutes
| for their products when they simply stop
| working. Red ring errors can be solved but
| technical errors like âerror 67â is difficult
| to tackle.
`----

http://topnews.us/content/210752-microsoft-losing-its-fame


Microsoft restricting Xbox 360 units from Army because the sale wouldnât give them enough money?

,----[ Quote ]
| Argue if you want, but the Xbox 360 with itâs
| cheap hardware, massive online gameplay and
| options for scenarios, and rather robust
| library of war games means itâs a pretty good
| fit as a training tool for the fine men and
| women training our country. Common sense also
| makes a might appearance. Itâs simple
| actually. Why should the Army spend upwards of
| $1,000 on training computers for each and ever
| soldier if an Xbox 360 can be had for
| significantly less and be used for multiple
| soldiers? Itâs basic math.
`----

http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/02/09/microsoft-restricting-xbox-360-units-from-army-because-the-sale-wouldnt-give-them-enough-money/


PS3 Better Serves Publishers Than 360, says Sony

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-better-serves-publishers-than-360-says-sony/


Sony Bashes Microsoft's "Check Writing" Policy Again

,----[ Quote ]
| Sony's PR strategy in the console war seems to
| be to point out that Microsoft is a devilish,
| top hat-wearing fat cat lording over the
| population with its giant dollar-sign labeled
| sacks of cash.
|
| Back in April, Sony bashed Microsoft for
| purchasing most of its exclusive titles rather
| than creating them, and with the recent
| release of Mass Effect 2 has gone back to
| those same tactics. Rob Dyer, SCEA Senior Vice
| President of Publisher Relations, told
| IndustryGamers that Sony "counters" Xbox 360
| exclusives with its own first-party games,
| which Microsoft simply has no answer to.
`----

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98398-Sony-Bashes-Microsofts-Check-Writing-Policy-Again


Microsoft Sued Over Xbox Live Points

http://www.pcworld.com/article/187861/microsoft_sued_over_xbox_live_points.html


Microsoft Hit with Class Action Over XBox Points

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/xbox_points_lawsuit.html


R.I.P., Halo 2 on Xbox Live

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft early this morning delivered some
| bad news to holdouts continuing to use its
| Xbox Live online gaming service to play games
| originally created for its first Xbox. As of
| April 15, the company is discontinuing Xbox
| Live for the original Xbox, according to the
| post by Xbox Live GM Marc Whitten (via
| VentureBeat).
`----

http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/02/rip_halo_2_on_xbox_live.html


What Microsoft giveth the Microsoft taketh away? â Xbox Live & Zune issues?

,----[ Quote ]
| Now it appears that as of April 15th 2010,
| fans of old Xbox titles such as Halo 2 will no
| longer be able to play them on Xbox live
| market place. Microsoft (as usual) reports
| this news as if its a good thing (and unless I
| am mistaken Halo 2 is still loved by many)
`----

http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/with-microsoft-giveth-the-microsoft-taketh-away-xbox-live-zune-issues/


Microsoft Points Draw Class Action Suit

,----[ Quote ]
| A Philadelphia-area attorney has filed a
| class action suit against Microsoft, claiming
| the software maker ripped him off after he
| bought points that were supposed to allow him
| to make purchases over the online Xbox Live
| Marketplace.
|
| Samuel Lassoff, of Horsham, PA, said an
| invoice he received earlier this month from
| Microsoft included charges for purchases he
| couldn't complete due to a balky download
| systemâand he claimed it wasn't an accident.
`----

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/microsoft_news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222400289&subSection=All+Stories


Microsoft, Stop Charging For Other Companiesâ Content On Xbox

,----[ Quote ]
| If your subscription is paid, you can watch
| Netflix for free on your computer, your Blu-
| ray player, your PS3, and soon, your Wii â
| but not on the Xbox 360. Microsoft, itâs time
| to kill the Xbox internet tax
`----

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/01/microsoft-stop-charging-for-other-companies-content-on-xbox/


Microsoft may drop points system from Xbox; Zune too?

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/01/21/xbox.live.and.zune.may.use.real.currency/


Microsoft Points Were Never Meant To "Mislead People"

http://kotaku.com/5453422/microsoft-points-were-never-meant-to-mislead-people


Microsoft Apologises For Points System, May Move To Real Money

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/01/microsoft-apologises-for-points-system-may-move-to-real-money/


box 360 sales tepid, stable in Japan

,----[ Quote ]
| Media Create Co. on Fri. reported that the
| Xbox 360 sold 8,965 units between Dec. 14 and
| Dec. 20 to rank No. 7 in overall hardware
| sales.
`----

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=9245
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