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Re: Linux Mint Finds Success

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____/ JeffM on Wednesday 16 Nov 2011 20:40 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Linux Mint chief not carried away by success
>>|[...]Clint Lefebvre appears to have both his feet planted very firmly
>>|on the ground as he guides the team[...]
> ...and for a more skeptical view, there's Robert Pogson:
> http://mrpogson.com/2011/11/09/linux-mint/
> :I have not used Linux Mint but
> :I poked around the website to find out about it.
> :[. . .]
> :I was surprised to find "rejected by clem" frequently.
> :[. . .]
> :[Clem's blog] "In Linux Mint 12 and upcoming releases
> :weâre hoping to provide users with the following
> :commercial search engines: Ask.com, Google, Amazon, eBay,
> :and the non-commercial Wikipedia.
> :
> :"It wonât only be down to donations and sponsorships anymore,
> :your activity on the web, every search query you make
> :and product you buy will help fund our project."
> :
> :[Pogson] Well. Funding is important
> :but since when does funding of a Free Software project
> :interfere with a userâs web-browsing?
> :
> Hand-waving aside, you can still type whatever URL you want
> into the Address bar of your browser
> --even {shock} a search engine site.
> :Then thereâs source code:
> :[Clem] "Linux Mint is free of charge (thanks to your donations
> :and adverts on the website) and we hope youâll enjoy it.
> :
> :"Some of the packages we distribute are under the GPL.
> :If you want to access their source code[,]
> :you can use the apt-get source command.
> :If you canât find what youâre looking for[,]
> :please write to root AT linuxmint DOT com
> :and weâll provide the source to you."
> :
> :[Pogson] That looks like source code is an afterthought,
> :not something essential to the project.
> :[. . .]
> :Itâs obviously an organization intent on building revenue
> :and restricting freedom
> :rather than allowing users to do what they want,
> :use information technology freely.
> :
> I imaging Robert shook his head disappointingly
> back when Warren over at MEPIS was rattling his tin cup.
> ....and he must have just about had an aneurysm
> when he encountered the Elive pay-to-play model.
> His comment #15 seems a bit naive as well:
> http://mrpogson.com/2011/11/09/linux-mint/#comment-62270
> :In what way it LinuxMint more useful than Debian GNU/Linux?
> :Codecs?
> :
> Yes, Robert. "Complete out of the box" has a luster all its own.
> :see http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
> :
> Well, that assumes that you have a fast 'Net connection
> and/or a willingness to go that route.  Some folks don't.
> :How patent-encumbered is that software?
> :How DRM-bypassing is it?
> :How sure are you that LinuxMint has licences for doing that?
> :
> Doesn't matter.  The Choose Your Edition page
> makes it clear that it's up to each individual
> to select the proper spin of Mint for his circumstances.
> If your country has draconian "intellectual property" laws,
> you should choose accordingly (OEM; Japan/USA)
> --or choose disobedience according to your conscience.
> :How many entities are lined up to sue LinuxMint
> :as soon as it becomes a large enough target?
> :
> There are still places on the planet that don't practice
> the sue-everyone "intellectual property" stupidity.
> At Mint's site, all individuals are offered a choice.
> Clem/Mint assumes that everyone is an informed grownup.
> Robert has spent too much time shepherding children.

I don't think that's a fair description of Robert. He has been smeared enough
by Microsoft trolls, he doesn't really deserve more of that...
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