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Re: Dell Gaming PC Ridiculed

  • Subject: Re: Dell Gaming PC Ridiculed
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:58:51 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [Larry Qualig] on Tuesday 20 December 2005 15:51 \__

> rapskat wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:36:49 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> > This proves (yet again) that Windows has suffers from serious issues
>> > pertaining to dependencies. Y'all try to say it in the context of Linux.
>> > This doesn't only apply to AV software that blocks ports. The main
>> > problem is that Windows will /never/ spew out a warning or an error
>> > message. It will just leave you confused for many hours until you wipe
>> > or $hip over to a techni$ian.
>> You certainly know that I am not a lover of Windows by any means, but in
>> this case it's not Windows per se that's the cause of the problem.  Rather
>> it is the fact that Dell systems come pre-loaded from the vendor with
>> spyware and adware.  It's sickening that you can buy a top of the line
>> smoking system just to see it perform like crap right at first bootup from
>> all the popups, ads, buy this now, and registration crap that they bloat
>> their images with.

I have wiped 2 Dell machines to have Linux installed on them (work and the
University;  I don't get to choose the vendor). The hardware seems  decent
as  it hasn't disappointed me for years; the O/$ is no problem either.  My
statement was pinpointing something else however.

The problem with Windows is that it is not verbose. This makes it very ar-
duous  to  fix once things go wrong. My teenage years have led me to  that
conclusion  and  I  still see the same with XP.  Troubleshooting  ->  Help
files;  Device manager -> Device working properly. But it ain't! Query  in
DOS  mode  -> How does the user even express him/herself? What  tools  are

The operating was engineered to become too optimistic. No vandalism is as-
sumed.  No aggressive advertisers can be combatted. No conflicting modules
can be detected and, moreover, problems are difficult to resolve. That, in
fact,  is  why the "wipe and re-install" is frequently the  off-the-sleeve
elixir to the Windows user. To many others, it is time-consuming and unac-

> I don't know what your average Joe consumer does (or can do) about this
> but myself and people I work with usually reformat their Dell systems
> and reinstall the OS from start. The last system I bought from Dell (a
> laptop) was a joke when it arrived. It had all sorts of demos and
> trial-versions of software installed on it. I'm sure that Dell gets
> paid to install AOL and all that other stuff which helps subsidize the
> unit and keep the price down.
> But out of the box the system is basically unusable. The 2nd time I
> powered up the unit pop-ups started appearing tellling me that my
> 30-day trial will soon expire and that I can buy/register some piece of
> crapware now. Fortunately I'm able to reinstall an OS but for the
> average Joe getting this sort of system has got to suck pretty bad.

This  becomes  somewhat of problem when you deal with a laptop. There  are
certain  drivers  that take time to install, so if you choose  to  install
from scratch, you'd wind up scratching your head. Compaq had a similar ap-
proach,  namely shipping an O/S distribution with tons of utterly unneces-
sary junk on top of it (oh, and drivers!).


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