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Re: Google stats - suspicious timing...

  • Subject: Re: Google stats - suspicious timing...
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:58:32 +0000
  • Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [www.1-script.com] on Monday 14 November 2005 18:01 \__

> Big Bill wrote:
>> Have these been around for a while? Doubt it, I imagine I would have
>> heard, as would you. Why are they appearing now, one wonders? It may
>> well be that Google has rather more up its sleeve than it's been
>> hinting. Damn those PHDs.
>> I've stuck a tracker on the first page of my still-sinking site. I
>> doubt it'll get disturbed much down there, but we'll see. Now I know
>> why they call it "pinging" a site. Sigh.
> Interesting detail about human psychology: if not sure about side effects
> or implications, why did you put the tracker code on the page? It?s
> amazing to see Google have this much credibility. I?d say this is their
> best asset.

Yes, they can finally track their main opponents in the SE business and
discover what they are up to. They have access to all that referrals
information with search terms and so forth. Google can actually optimise
their results pages based on statistical samples from their opponents'

> This is not to say that I did not do it out of healthy curiosity as soon
> as I learned about the service ;-)
> Having been using site version of Urchin (the system behind the hosted
> stats service) for awhile, I'm pretty sure that now Google will know
> everything there is to know about your site, its structure, visitors, the
> ways you are earning money from it, Google's position against their
> competitors in bringing you traffic, you name it, they'll know it.

What I also thought about is the implication on statistics and /spam/.
Webmasters can find ways of optimising their stats artificially or reporting
fake figures through the Urchin/Google JavaScript-bound API. They can
fabricate and send packets that potentially increase their perceived
popularity. If it is made possible, that is...


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