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Re: Torvalds lambasts Free Software Foundation

  • Subject: Re: Torvalds lambasts Free Software Foundation
  • From: Hadron Quark <hadron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:31:42 +0200
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Kier <vallon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:07:15 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> __/ [ Roy Schestowitz ] on Tuesday 01 August 2006 08:44 \__
>>> __/ [ ws ] on Tuesday 01 August 2006 04:51 \__
>>>> [H]omer wrote:
>>>>> Tony Sivori wrote:
>>>>>> oh. my. god.
>>>>>> PJ removed Linus Torvalds' post on Groklaw because he used a few
>>>>>> swear words.
>>>>> I'm more offended by his sentiment, than his swearing.
>>>>> Has Torvalds developed a brain tumour or something; he seems to be
>>>>> turning into just another capitalist grey suit?
>>>>> "Say I'm a hardware manufacturer. I decide I love some particular
>>>>> piece of open-source software, but when I sell my hardware, I want to
>>>>> make sure it runs only one particular version of that software,
>>>>> because that's what I've validated." - http://tinyurl.com/zljpq
>>>>> (news.com)
>>>>> Remind you of anything?
>>>>> Next he'll be arguing that it's a *good* thing that hardware
>>>>> manufacturers develop CSS drivers for Windows only, precluding
>>>>> Linux. Oh but *that's* OK though ... so long as the drivers are
>>>>> "validated" then we can all sleep easier at night.
>>>>> AFAICT the GPLv3 is simply a DRM countermeasure, and IMHO that can
>>>>> only be a good thing, since DRM may well be one of the most evil
>>>>> creations in human history. If that sounds hysterical then go read
>>>>> some Orwell and think again.
>>>>> I'm starting to think that maybe Theo the Rat might be right after
>>>>> all.
>>>> Just waiting for Alan Cox to hit Linus on the head with a clue stick.
>>>> It's what happened the last time when he had a brain fart.
>>> Which one of them? Either way, I am shocked that his post was removed. What
>>> an insult, given that he rarely (if ever) participates in that forum. He
>>> won't be back any time soon.
>> Addendum: As I came across this brand-new article, I could not help noticing
>> the re-iteration of Linus' words in the sidebar.
>> "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE.
>> This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome
>> is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I
>> don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached
>> the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
>> Please, just tell people to use KDE."
>>                                                 -Linus
> He's entitled to his opinion. On this issue he happens to be full of
> shit.

Actually theres another way of looking at it : Gnome makes it
notoriously hard to configure anything via the GUI. If Linux doesnt work
you have to go to the command line most of the times. Most people dont
like doing that and end up giving up. I think it frustrates him, as it
does me, that so much talent is wasted writing competing desktops. I
have done the switch (twice) between KDE and Gnome and both have CORE
interfaces which plain dont work properly (stuff like Wireless, DNS,
DHCP config) while we are being flooded with nifty little RSS applets
and similar shit.

> That doesn't mean everything he says is bullshit, IMO. After all, he
> didn't get where he is by being stupid.

Kind of you to acknowledge that. He will be pleased :-;

Altough if I'd written a huge OS thats being distributed around the
world and making a shit load of consultants billions a year I think I'd
have liked to be paid a bit for it too :-;

> -- 
> Kier


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