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Re: [News] "Operating Systems Need to Disappear"

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
on Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:41:49 +0100
> __/ [ The Ghost In The Machine ] on Tuesday 08 August 2006 15:00 \__
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
>> <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>  wrote
>> on Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:08:06 +0100
>> <1879343.21lv7ASDVV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> __/ [ The Ghost In The Machine ] on Tuesday 08 August 2006 04:00 \__
>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Paul Hovnanian P.E.
>>>> <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>  wrote
>>>> on Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:29:11 -0700
>>>> <44D7E8E7.5E3A544@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>> Linux needs to disappear
>>>>> Windows already does. In a puff of blue smoke.
>>>> As long as it's not greasy. :-)  But it is a colossal mess,
>>>> and full of magic words and phrases, and lots of little
>>>> guys throwing rather nasty things.  I've not seen any huge
>>>> green fierce snakes in there yet, but there might as well be.
>>> Ballmer is no little guy. And there is nothing nasty about fine furniture.
>> Fine furniture?  Are we in the same twisty little maze of passages here?
>> :-)
>> Damn, now I'm going to have to find a port... :-)  I'm
>> mildly surprised Gentoo doesn't already have one (they
>> do have dungeon, but not adventure; zork is a commercial
>> offering although it might have gravitated to freeware
>> by now).
> "Zork" as in "Return to Zork"?

Actually, no.  It was the original, a derivative of Dungeon
(which I used to play on occasion on VMS way back when).
I have or had an Amiga variant, all three disks (they
came out with three of them), bought in a moment of $60
foolishness way back when.  It was a pure text-based game.

However, "Return to Zork" does ring a bell, and I believe it eventually
wandered into another series.  I want to say Wishbringer; turns out they
are related:


Of course from what I've seen screenshot wise "The Elder Scrolls IV:
Oblivion" blows them all away... :-)  Unfortunately, there's apparently
no Linux variant.

I'll admit to wondering whether there are any Crystal Space derivatives
still flitting about.

> Boy, I remember how the graphics in that game
> amazed me. I must have been about 13 at the time. If you are looking for
> some puzzles and/or quests, why not get a DOS emulator and work from there?

I have one; I play "Discworld" on it.  Crude graphics, but what does one
expect from VGA? :-)

> There are also some classics that were ported to Linux. I played Descent the
> other day (yesterday?). It came with SuSE 8.1.

I have Descent II, myself.  I've not tried it lately with ALSA, though,
and now Quake 2 is broken soundwise.  Feh!

I'm hoping more follow the lead of Beneath A Steel Sky.  The graphics
are laughable but the idea of offering the game for free is not.

> I happen to see some of my
> old favourites every now and then. And not just big names like Quake. I
> could truly take Sam and Max for a spin... saw it in some demo site... must
> have been a Windows clone like ReactOS... let me check...
> http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/screenshots.html
> Hmm... it's not there... might have moved or maybe it's the wrong site. I do
> see some classics though. Look, ma! Day of the Tentacle!!

Wow.  Beats me how I could have missed that one. :-)  (Beats me *why*
I'd want to look for it. :-)  Then again, apparently there's one out
there that likes it...




>>>> In a way, Linux has already disappeared -- not in the sense of losing
>>>> buzz, but in the sense that it does its job rather quietly, no muss, no
>>>> fuss.  Windows is very noisy.
>>> Very true. *smile*

#191, ewill3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Windows Vista.  Because it's time to refresh your hardware.  Trust us.

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