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Re: You wanted the link, here it is, HQ

  • Subject: Re: You wanted the link, here it is, HQ
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:49:55 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / ISBE, Manchester University / ITS
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__/ [ Rex Ballard ] on Monday 28 August 2006 00:50 \__

> Kier wrote:
>> Did a bit of googling just to shut you up
>>
>> http://www.angelfire.com/blog/trollarchive/
> 
> Very amusing in retrospect.  It's amazing how so many of postings were
> considered credible at the time, and in retrospect seem as absurd as
> those who said the world was flat, or that the universe rotated around
> the earth.
> 
> Of course, at the time that those statements were being made, the
> amount of information available was limited, and those who proposed
> alternate views tere often burned at the stake.
> 
> Fortunately today, we live in more "enlightened" times when those with
> contriversial opinions based on information that the "Microsoft
> Religeon" wants suppressed, only lost their jobs, and usually found
> newer, better paying jobs in a matter of weeks.
> 
>> This is Daeron's archive of posts. Knock yourself out.


Well, someone seems to be knocking. And it's not Quirky Hardon.

http://www.angelfire.com/blog/trollarchive/flatfish.png


> I noticed that several of the reference documents to commercial content
> were also deleted from AngelFire as well.  Proabably due to copyright
> violations.


I had noticed that too, even before I read your response. While we speak
about diversion of the media:

      Bill Gates lends cash to buy newspapers

      $350 million to MediaNews

,----[ Quote ]
| Gates involvement has been very behind the scenes. In fact many of
| those involved in the deal didn't even know he was one of the investors.
| It was carried out through the Gates Foundation, the world's largest
| philanthropy outfit.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33849

That same foundation is also used to bribe politicians in a subtle way. And
speaking of lobbying, how about stories such as these:

Microsoft plays Massachusetts Senate card

OpenDocument not a done deal yet

,----[ Quote ]
| Accusations are rife that the software giant Microsoft has not given up
| on getting rid of the State of Massachusetts's plans to shift all its
| documents to the open source standard OpenDocument (ODF).
|
| Last week an amendment which would have would have removed the power of
| the State to set state wide IT standards and enabled the ODF project to
| be killed off was dropped. This lead many to believe that the ODF was a
| done deal.
|
| However, this week Vole gave Massachusetts high schools and universities
| more than splashed out more than $30 million worth of IT gear. This works
| out at $800 per student, and $2,400 per college kid. This is a huge amount
| of dosh, by education donation standards, in what is a very small US
| State.
|
| [...]
|
| Nothing wins votes more than being able to cut your budget thanks to a
| hefty donation from a big corporate donor, while at the same time Vole
| gets what it wants by somewhat unpublicised means.
`----

                        http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32515 


Microsoft offers schools in Mass. free software

,----[ Quote ]
| Corporate donations to school systems are not unusual, as companies often
| try to gain name recognition by placing their brands with younger
| consumers. State and school officials, though cognizant of companies'
| attempts to use students for branding, said the donation is a boon
| for financially strapped schools trying to update their technology.
|
| Microsoft's software includes normal applications, such as word
| processing and spreadsheets, as well as more advanced programs.
`---- 

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/06/13/microsoft_offers_schools_in_mass_free_software/



Microsoft Grants Their Way Out of Massachusetts Open Source Mandate

,----[ Quote ]
| Perhaps the headline is a bit overstated, but the news this week
| that Microsoft was making grants available to Massachusetts public
| schools and universities that would figure to be about $800 per high
| school student and $2,400 per university student it seems a bit
| suspicious...
|
| Last year there had been much chatter about abandoning any format that
| did not comply with open-source document standards. This pretty much
| would have meant that Microsoft's Office wouldn't occupy any of the
| desktops in State offices.
`---- 

http://www.bostonist.com/archives/2006/06/15/microsoft_grants_their_way_out_of_massachusetts_open_source_mandate.php



To repeat an older (yet recent) message of mine:

<quote>

Blind leading away from open source

,----[ Quote ]
| I'm sure this is just a hiccup, but apparently the blind have given
| Massachusetts' efforts to mandate open source the shaft.
|
| Because Open Document Format (ODF) software (Open Office) does not yet
| work with screen magnifiers, which make computer documents usable by
| those who are legally blind, the state of Massachusetts is backing-away
| from its commitment to mandate the format.
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=755

Sounds fishy to me. After all the anti-Quinn FUD, which had him resign, you
also had stories such as:

Mass. holding tight to OpenDocument

,----[ Quote ]
| State is sticking to its plan to standardize on OpenDocument, say
| the incoming CIO, describing the move as irreversible.
|
| Massachusetts is sticking to its plan to adopt OpenDocument, despite
| a critical report calling for a delay to the high-profile move.
`----

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6090196.html?part=rss&tag=6090196&sub...

But then...

Microsoft offers schools in Mass. free software

,----[ Quote ]
| Corporate donations to school systems are not unusual, as companies often
| try to gain name recognition by placing their brands with younger
| consumers. State and school officials, though cognizant of companies'
| attempts to use students for branding, said the donation is a boon
| for financially strapped schools trying to update their technology.
|
| Microsoft's software includes normal applications, such as word
| processing and spreadsheets, as well as more advanced programs.
`----

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6090196.html?part=rss&tag=6090196&sub...

Microsoft plays Massachusetts Senate card

OpenDocument not a done deal yet

,----[ Quote ]
| Accusations are rife that the software giant Microsoft has not given up
| on getting rid of the State of Massachusetts's plans to shift all its
| documents to the open source standard OpenDocument (ODF).
|
| Last week an amendment which would have would have removed the power of
| the State to set state wide IT standards and enabled the ODF project to
| be killed off was dropped. This lead many to believe that the ODF was a
| done deal.
|
| However, this week Vole gave Massachusetts high schools and universities
| more than splashed out more than $30 million worth of IT gear. This works
| out at $800 per student, and $2,400 per college kid. This is a huge amount
| of dosh, by education donation standards, in what is a very small US
| State.
|
| [...]
|
| Nothing wins votes more than being able to cut your budget thanks to a
| hefty donation from a big corporate donor, while at the same time Vole
| gets what it wants by somewhat unpublicised means.
`----

                        http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32515

Somebody is pushing an agenda here. And it's not the blind people, whose
'problem' can be easily fixed. 

</quote>


> It's beginning to look like Ray Bradbury's vision of the future in
> Farenheit 451 is very close to coming true.  Only instead of destroying
> books, it's the periodicals, newspapers, magazines, and historical
> books which must be destroyed, to permit and protect revisionist
> history to be written by the economic power which owns all information.


It's more like book-burning. Or media control... this was actually said in a
different context earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RpoWKpAL9Q


> Was this Bill's plan all along?  To control the storage and
> distribution of information, so that he could ultimately control the
> information itself?  If so, he knew that that kind of power would only
> lead to totalitarian control by the "Order".


Media aside, there are political involvements as well.

Hot Water for Danish Prime Minister Because of Visit to MS

,----[ Quote ]
| Do you remember the visit the Danish Prime Minister made to Bill Gates
| and Microsoft, right after the Danish Parliament decided to introduce
| open standards? It seems there is some unhappiness at the visit, which
| happened immediately afterward.
`----

        http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060625205231730 



UK holds Microsoft security talks

,----[ Quote ]
| Windows Vista won't have a backdoor that could be used by police forces
| to get into encrypted files, Microsoft has stressed.
`----

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4713018.stm

I suspect it's all about exchange of favours. And Blair is known to be a
close friend of Bill Gates. Judging by the acquisitions of software at
government level (e.g. NHS), it shows.


> The "order", sometimes refered to as the "New world order" is actually
> a structure dating back to the ancient Egyptians (possibly older),
> claiming the authority of "God" or "Gods" to rule over others.
> Controlling and using technology to manipulate and terrorize others,
> blaming political targets for their mischief, and using the technology
> to produce "magic".  The order is almost always organized top-down and
> subordinates must be obedient even to the point of death.
> 
> The "illuminati", were those who advocated the freedom of the
> individual, governments based on the approval and service to the people
> originating from the bottom up.  Perhaps the Exodus in the Bible was
> the first such "democracy".  Perhaps this is why so many totalitarians
> of the "order" wanted to eliminate the Jewish culture as they shifted
> to their totalitarian forms.  The Greeks, the Romans,  the Catholic
> church, the Reformation, the French Revolution, numerous Latin American
> countries, Nazi Germany, the USSR, the Middle East...  All attempted to
> transition to democracy and ended up becoming totalitarian states.
> 
> The Internet was envisioned as a democracy, in which anyone could
> publish any information or opinion, and participate in global
> discussions that focused on specific issues, and could come up with new
> solutions to age-old problems such as poverty, famine, addiction, and
> other economic and social problems that afflict all cultures at one
> time or another.


Microsoft's 'Naughty or Nice' Patent Application

,----[ Quote ]
| "Those of you worried about Microsoft's stance on network neutrality
| won't find much comfort in the software giant's just-published patent
| application..."
`----

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/25/0555222&from=rss 

How convenient. Helping create a tied Web... not to mention that MSN was
among the first (if not the first) to embrace censorship in China, I
suspect. And Microsoft bought AdWords for the search phrase 'linux' for a
long time... as well as put ads in Linux sites, as means of confusing
people.

Freedom of speech leads to enlightenment. Where would Linux have been if it
were not for HOWTO's (Google was, to an extent, a Linux search engines).
What about downloading of ISO in a marketplace where there is no commodity?
Or torrents?


> The internet has led to the rapid deployment of resources to quickly
> respond to emergency situations and natural disasters.  Often, the
> response to catastrophes such as 9/11 or certain hurricanes, or even
> certain war victims, exceeded the actual need.
> 
> But there are those who want to alter even that history.  Those who
> wish to distort the priorities of information.  When the richest man on
> earth admits to crimes and this confession is shown on national
> television, the top story of the day is a little cuban boy who was
> washed ashore on the coast of Florida.
> 
> Even this futile attempt to preserve history was thwarted by the use of
> copyright control to prevent the continued disclosure of information.
> I so dearly wish that I could publish the electronic copies of articles
> I have saved to my personal hard drive and personal archives, but
> copyright law prevents me from doing so.  Perhaps the DMCA should be
> revised to state that once an article has been "tombstoned" it can be
> published as reference material by anyone who wishest to do so.  This
> would at least prevent history from being rewritten by the whims of the
> extremely wealthy who wish to seat a totalitarian dictatorship, even
> here in America.


Find solace in that fact that Google (Groups) will not have the truth about
Microsoft erased. I keep local copies just in case.

Best wishes,

Roy

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