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Re: Dell+Linux?

  • Subject: Re: Dell+Linux?
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:53:49 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [ Larry Qualig ] on Saturday 25 February 2006 14:57 \__

> 
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> __/ [ 7 ] on Saturday 25 February 2006 00:17 \__
> 
>> >
>> >> Yesterday the web-site showed that EBuyer had 330 machines in stock.
>> >> Today that number is 309. So they sold 21 machines in 24 hours. Dell
>> >> will sell 21 machines in less than 5 seconds... 24 hours a day around
>> >> the clock 365 days a year.
>> >>
>> >> Compared to a giant like Dell a company like E-sys is nowhere to be
>> >> seen. This isn't a comentary on their quality, service or anything
>> >> about the company other than this "LARGE company" (your words not mine)
>> >> is nothing compared to the scale and volume that Dell operates at.
>> >
>> >
>> > As I said, you are an utter fool.
>> > No small or medium company can make and service 330 machines on
>> > one order. Doesn't matter if all the other companies make up
>> > the ocean to compare with, eSys is STILL a LARGE company
>> > because the pie is very large and they are very
>> > happily selling Linux machines.
>>
>> Larry, this has taken the *exact* same route as our conversation elsewhere
>> in this thread. The quantity argument is void. Period. Market is driven by
>> demand. Order 10,000 units from EBuyer and the company will immediately
>> grow. Dell Computers used to be a small company in a Houston dorm too.
> 
> 
> --> The quantity argument is void. Period. Market is driven by demand.
> Order 10,000 units from EBuyer and the company will immediately grow.
> 
> 
> Maybe it would help if you explained why you believe quantity doesn't
> matter. Dell computers sells about 4 computers/second. This means that
> every second of every day there are essentially 4 more people out there
> using Windows that could have been using Linux.
> 
> I just don't see how anyone could say that it doesn't matter if Dell
> endorses Linux or not. EBuyer endorses Linux so who cares about Dell. I
> just don't follow the logic here... could you explain?
> 
> Thanks - LQ

No  problem, Larry. I appreciate the fact that you correctly interpet  the
tone of 'electronic voices'.

EBuyer could not handle 4 computers/second, but pace takes time to attain.
It  is an issue of momentum. I can't see how you actually address my  sen-
tence  which  you quoted. It turn, this leaves me baffled. It is  also  as
though  you shift the tide of arguments to a contention which is only  im-
plicitly  related  but not directly related to the subject at  hand.  This
makes it harder for me to push forward this discussion with you.

Put  simply, a company orders 300 units from EBuyer/eSys, EBuyer hire more
people.  The  following  month, /two/ companies order 300 units  each,  so
EBuyer  can  deliver  promptly  and open a new  branch.  One  year  later,
EBuyer/eSys  are  modest-sized companies that can deliver one machine  per
minute  and  years down the line, who knows? Growth takes time,  but  this
does  not  invalidate a small company's potential to sell  equipment.  The
workforce is out there waiting for local demand to rise.

Best wishes,

Roy

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