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Re: Tuxmachines.org: SUSE Linux 10.1 Final Report

  • Subject: Re: Tuxmachines.org: SUSE Linux 10.1 Final Report
  • From: William Poaster <wp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:12:00 +0100
  • Kde: 3.5.1
  • Machine: #3, Drive #1
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Association of International Linux Admins
  • Os: SuSE 10.1 GM 12/05/06
  • Pgp-key-id: D074FE94
  • References: <T-KdnSb8xK_lqPXZRVn-uA@speakeasy.net> <3194208.dF4ikNi2EW@schestowitz.com>
  • Reply-to: willpoast@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • User-agent: Pan/0.14.90 ('Ere, he says he's not dead.)
  • Xref: news.mcc.ac.uk comp.os.linux.advocacy:1109293
On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:01:40 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> __/ [ John Bailo ] on Monday 15 May 2006 09:01 \__
>> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/6879?from=0,2
>> "Conclusion
>> All in all, SUSE 10.1 rocks. It is solid, stable, and professional. It
>> is feature rich and thus lacks very little. With its new features like
>> AppArmor and XGL, SUSE is ahead of the competition.
> It has also got Beagle for data indexing (like Apple Spotlight and Google
> Desktop). I suppose that SuSE 10 already had that though. Then come
> virtualisation and consistency (minor bug fixes).
>> Missing multimedia support is a major drawback, especially for new
>> window converts. Its Software Manager is still demonstrating minor
>> glitches can be quite annoying. The whole Software Management suite is a
>> bit confusing with the separate modules with overlapping functionality.
> I wonder if that part on multimedia is among the reasons why you posted
> this. You asked about it before. All it involves is a few clicks, which
> get the codecs installed under YaST2.
> To me, one major drawback is centralisation around GNOME. There was a rant
> in one of the OpenSUSE mailing list this morning -- one that I can
> identify with:
> http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-kde/2006-May/0001.html

Ever since I've used SuSE I've used KDE, but also some GNOME packages too,
GAIM, glabels & Pan mainly. As for the "stupid updater in the tray", of
course the OP can kill it.....if they want to - right click > Quit . I
don't know what he's got in a sweat about.
Anders replies in the next post :-
I saw all this in the mailing list at the time, & wondered what
"ianseeks" was getting his knickers in a twist about. It seems to me that
he could be a newbie(ish), as he says he's going back to 9.3 &"total KDE".
As anyone would know, who's used SuSE for a while (& as Anders points out),
SuSE has never *had* anything like "total KDE".

>> The kernel is a very new version, but KDE and Gnome are already almost
>> considered outdated with KDE 3.5.1 being used over the 3.5.2 that's
>> been out for a coupla months and similarly for the included Gnome 2.12
>> verses the latest Gnome 2.1.4. But weighing these few complaints
>> against all the features, stability, and overall look & feel &
>> functionality, SUSE still comes out King of Hill. They are the top of
>> the pyramid and the cream of the crop."

I am a little surprised that 10.1 isn't using KDE 3.5.1, however IIRC
3.5.2 wasn't out when SuSE 10.1 alpha was posted. Also 3.5.1 has been
about for awhile & is stable, with no bugs to speak of ;-) So as a new
development, I can understand them using 3.5.1 & trying to eliminate some
of the bugs. Having tried tried teh betas, & RCs releases, I can tell you
there were a few without adding extra KDE ones as well! <grin> I'm sure
KDE 3.5.2 will be released soon for 10.1. But ATM it works for me. :-)

> Ubuntu is easier for newbies. It's also makes installations slightly
> easier, in my opinion -- for distro and package alike.

Kubuntu is easy, & so is PCLinux both of which I've tested & run on my
test machine.  :-)

SuSE 10.1 GM
KDE 3.5.1
PAN 0.14.90

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