__/ [ yttrx ] on Monday 13 November 2006 22:25 \__
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> __/ [ yttrx ] on Monday 13 November 2006 19:46 \__
>>
>>> BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> yttrx wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quoted for its value:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samba Team Asks Novell to Reconsider
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>>> | The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell
>>>>>>> | on November 2nd.
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software
>>>>>>> | world and the free software world is that the proprietary software
>>>>>>> | world divides users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing
>>>>>>> | agreements which restrict their rights to share with each other,
>>>>>>> | whereas the free software world encourages users to unite and share
>>>>>>> | the benefits of the software.
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a
>>>>>>> | divisive agreement. It deals with users and creators of free
>>>>>>> | software differently depending on their "commercial" versus
>>>>>>> | "non-commercial" status, and deals with them differently depending
>>>>>>> | on whether they obtained their free software directly from Novell
>>>>>>> | or from someone else.
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for
>>>>>>> | no such distinctions.
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd
>>>>>>> | software must stand together in the fight against software patents.
>>>>>>> | Only by standing together do we stand a chance of defending against
>>>>>>> | the peril represented by software patents. With this agreement
>>>>>>> | Novelli s attempting to destroy that unified defense, exchanging
>>>>>>> | the long term interests of the entire Free Software community for a
>>>>>>> | short term advantage for Novell over their competitors.
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the
>>>>>>> | relationship that they have with the Free Software community. We
>>>>>>> | are, in essence, their suppliers, and Novell should know that they
>>>>>>> | have no right to make self serving deals on behalf of others which
>>>>>>> | run contrary to the goals and ideals of the Free Software
>>>>>>> | community.
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is
>>>>>>> | not acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates,
>>>>>>> | discussions and conferences on the topic knew this to be the case.
>>>>>>> | We call upon Novell to work with the Software Freedom Law Center to
>>>>>>> | undo the patent agreement and acknowledge its obligations as a
>>>>>>> | beneficiary of the Free Software community.
>>>>>>> `----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.samba.org/announcements/team_to_novell/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samba could withdraw the license for Novell to use samba. That would
>>>>>> bugger things up a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can understand samba being worried, but actually Samba have gone,
>>>>>> imho, too far past the basic file/printer sharing idea. They are
>>>>>> taking some of the secure aspects of communications and email handling
>>>>>> away from the Linux, but also for each service their provide the user
>>>>>> has another level between them and their goal, taking into account
>>>>>> that every service that is exposed via Samba is already available on
>>>>>> your Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Secure aspects of communications and email handling? You don't know
>>>>> what
>>>>> the fuck you're talking about. Samba is now and always was about Unix
>>>>> and Unix-like operating systems interpolating with windows operating
>>>>> systems on networks more easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, that means:
>>>>>
>>>>> file and printer sharing
>>>>> active directory authentication
>>>>>
>>>>> In short, it is about a free implementation of the SMB/CIFS networking
>>>>> protocols, and thats it, period, end of story.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wrong peabrain, you haven't copied the full list, I suspect you don't
>>>> really know Samba nor did you bother with anything other than the first
>>>> page of their home page, which is where you copied your text from.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Where I copied my text from? How about this, you fucking worthless
>>> goddamn retard:
>>>
>>> QUOTE EXACTLY WHERE I COPIED FROM, AND SUPPLY A URL.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, youre just a lying sack of shit.
>>>
>>> Also, I've set up Samba installations that would confuse you to fucking
>>> tears, bitch. I've written smb.conf files from memory for YEARS.
>>>
>>> Seriously, you dont know shit about computers or linux. Maybe you should
>>> go somewhere else and learn a little bit first, then come back.
>>
>> Dude, please calm down.
>>
>> You are pissing all over the newsgroups (and UseNet) when you use language
>> like that. You're only serving the trolls here by hurting the credential
>> of what's said here. It also drives people away. Remember that it's not
>> Linux advocates in the Linux advocacy newsgroup that deserve mistreatment
>> for deliberate trolling for a paycheck. Vent your anger at Erik and his
>> colleagues from Redmond. They get paid (compensated) for the insults.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Roy
>>
>
> Hey roy, why dont you SUCK MY BALLS
I'd rather let your g/f take care of that.
> until you've been posting on usenet
> for as long as I have. You're the new kid, bitch.
That's right. Apart from the "bitch" part!
Best wishes,
Roy
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