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[News] [Rival] Microsoft Gets Told Off Because of OOXML, SOA

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Gets Told Off Because of OOXML, SOA
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:22:57 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Little progress in states' ODF considerations

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| In extrapolating the dangers posed by the continued use of Microsoft's 
| formats the expert cited issues that rescue workers faced in accessing 
| records maintained by local government entities when aiding in the relief of 
| victims of the 2004 tsunami in the Indian Ocean, in which an estimated 
| 300,000 people were killed,.    
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http://www.infoworld.nl/idgns/bericht.phtml?id=002570DE00740E18002573300079DCFE

The following article discusses OOXML, as well as Windows-only SOA protocols
(see references).

IBM chides Microsoft over SOA

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| Mills provided further contrast between IBM and Microsoft, saying that, in 
| SOA, IBM takes vertical approaches to automation around inventory management 
| and transaction control, and makes these horizontal processes.  
| 
| "We want to be frictionless in transactions as we rethink business-processes 
| models," said Mills. "Transaction integrity requires sustained access flow, 
| and Microsoft doesn't do that. Microsoft is about passing messages from one 
| Windows-based system to another, not about involving the transaction 
| function.     
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6201511.html


Related:

Microsoft absent from open standards movement around SOA

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| Now, a new series of SOA standards is headed to OASIS, ones that could 
| create a whole market segment around SOA common programmatic principles, 
| but Microsoft is nowhere in sight. The absence of Microsoft from the 
| Service Component Architecture (SCA), and its sibling Service Data 
| Objects (SDO), definitions process can mean one thing: Microsoft will 
| pursue its proprietary approach of baking pseudo-SOA into its 
| operating system stack as long as it can.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gardner/?p=2483


Microsoft needs REST

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| Yaron Goland defended his Microsoft colleague, Dare Objasanjo, as a poor 
| sitting duck. He justifies the decision to scrap APP as tactical and not 
| strategic. He states: “We considered this option but the changes needed to 
| make APP work for our scenarios were so fundamental that it wasn’t clear if 
| the resulting protocol would still be APP… I also have to admit that I was 
| deathly afraid of the political implications of Microsoft messing around with 
| APP.” According to Goland, “we couldn’t figure out how to use APP without 
| putting an unacceptable implementation and performance burden on both our 
| customers and ourselves.”       
| 
| The implications for this APP vs. Web3S debate can potentially be enormous. 
| Just as we are on the brink of creating simple architectures that are 
| interoperable using simple standards, the industry risks splitting into 
| separate, incompatible camps again. It is probably no coincidence that we 
| have Microsoft on one side and Google, IBM and Sun on the other. This will be 
| a fundamental problem for enterprise customers if Microsoft extends this 
| strategy into any REST architectures that it introduces into the enterprise. 
| Any enterprise systems that expose their data using APP, which is likely in 
| the near future, will be incompatible with any Microsoft system that expose 
| their data with Web3S.         
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/Newton/?p=14


Halloween Memo I Confirmed and Microsoft's History on Standards

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|  By the way, if you are by any chance trying to figure out Microsoft's policy 
|  toward standards, particularly in the context of ODF-EOXML, that same 
|  Microsoft page is revelatory, Microsoft's answer to what the memo meant when 
|  it said that Microsoft could extend standard protocols so as to deny 
|  Linux "entry into the market":    
|
|    Q: The first document talked about extending standard protocols as a way 
|    to "deny OSS projects entry into the market." What does this mean? 
|
|    A: To better serve customers, Microsoft needs to innovate above standard 
|    protocols. By innovating above the base protocol, we are able to deliver 
|    advanced functionality to users. An example of this is adding 
|    transactional support for DTC over HTTP. This would be a value-add and 
|    would in no way break the standard or undermine the concept of standards, 
|    of which Microsoft is a significant supporter. Yet it would allow us to 
|    solve a class of problems in value chain integration for our Web-based 
|    customers that are not solved by any public standard today. Microsoft 
|    recognizes that customers are not served by implementations that are 
|    different without adding value; we therefore support standards as the 
|    foundation on which further innovation can be based.          
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070127202224445 


A File Format Timeline

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| Like any durable goods monopoly (and few things are as durable as 
| software) Microsoft's largest competitor is their own install base. 
| Microsoft has made many attempts at moving beyond the binary formats 
| in the past, with Office 2000, Office XP and Office 2003. But in each 
| case it failed. These were all false starts and abandoned attempts. So
| we should look for signs that OOXML is actually Microsoft's real 
| direction and not another false start or dead end.
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/06/file-format-timeline.html


Microsoft used undocumented Windows APIs - Iowa testimony

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| 'All I can say is holy API batman...I'm not kidding...we are talking
| about literally 500-800 APIs here, no joke,' he wrote.
| 
| Alepin had earlier claimed that Microsoft ran special demonstration
| programs whose sole purpose was to crash rival products and alleged
| that the company had subverted developers who used Microsoft's
| version of Java 'thinking they were developing multi-platform
| applications, but were actually developing Windows-specific
| applications'.
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http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/101947/microsoft-used-undocumented-windows-apis-iowa-testimony.html


CIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

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| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTML_Hijack/1169824569

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