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Re: Yell if Microsoft's Live.com Spammed You Too

____/ nessuno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on Wednesday 14 November 2007 22:47 : \____

> <Quote>
> ...this post presents evidence indicating that Microsoft is spamming
> websites. A big claim, I know, but I can't find a better explanation.
> You'll have to decide.
> 
> The summary: IP addresses belonging to Microsoft are requesting pages
> from eKstreme.com and blogSci.com (my science blog) with HTTP referer
> headers suggesting that the hits were from live.com searches. These
> referer headers are spoofed as the keywords from these supposed
> searches are sometimes in no way related to the requested page.
> Additionally, for most of the other supposed searches, the requested
> pages do not rank in the top 10 (first page of results) in a way to
> send this traffic.
> </Quote>
> 
>
http://ekstreme.com/thingsofsorts/blogging/yell-if-microsofts-livecom-spammed-you-too/

[me yelling /]

They have been referrer-spamming several of my sites for months. It must have
started around the time when they introduced those 'games' (as in gaming the
system and breaking stats methods).

This one I received by E-mail:

,----[ Quote ]
| [...]
| 
| Live.com has been pinging people's sites with what appears to be referrer 
| spam.  There is a thread about it here: 
| http://www.webmasterworld.com/msn_microsoft_search/3424476.htm  
|  
| I posted a summary here -- I suspect that it's just old fashioned referrer 
| spam: http://pocketseo.com/analytics/146 
| 
| Some other takes on it:
|  
| 
http://andrewu.co.uk/webtech/comment/?odd_referrer_spamlike_behaviour_from_microsoft 
|  
| 
http://www.bitworm.com/search/2007/is-microsoft-live-search-stuffing-our-log-files/ 
|  
| I thought you might be interested.  I attached a sample excerpt from one of 
| my sites' logs in case you haven't seen it before.  [...] 
`----


See:

How Microsoft Clubs to Search Gains

,----[ Quote ]
| We checked with Hitwise, and they explained that June gains include “searches 
| automatically generated from a promotion on club.live.com,” up to June 9,  
| 2007. After that they stopped counting the data. 
`----

http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/how-microsoft-clubs-to-search-gains/


Tracking Internet Use Remains Difficult

,----[ Quote ]
| For example, this month Nielsen said search-engine queries for No. 3-ranked 
| Microsoft Corp. jumped about 80 percent in June, a curious development for a 
| search engine that had been continuously losing market share.  
| 
| Microsoft said the gains were the result of a word game promotion, in which 
| players had to form words out of a jumble of letters. As part of the game, 
| Microsoft's search engine automatically hunted for Web pages that contained 
| the word being guessed at.   
| 
| The promotion raises the question of whether these clicks were the result of 
| using automated means, and therefore shouldn't be counted. 
| 
| Nielsen product manager Scott Ross said the company sees no need to change 
| the June search-engine rankings. Yet, he conceded that critics -- including 
| Yahoo, operator of the world's second most popular search engine -- may also 
| have a point about Microsoft using questionable means to spark the surge in 
| popularity.    
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070725/tracking_internet_usage.html?.v=1



Microsoft’s Club Live fiasco

,----[ Quote ]
| People were using the macro on more than 3 games at a time, on more than 2 
| accounts at a time, why Microsoft didn’t pick up on the fact that in the 
| first few days some people had accumulated enough for 3 Zunes each is beyond 
| us. Some were lucky, others, not so much.   
|
| [...]
| 
| So far no one has been banned from using their accounts, which they needed to 
| sign up, probably because they did not break any laws, or probably because 
| Microsoft didn’t want that hassle and liked their new found traffic.  
`----

http://www.blogthe.net/2007/07/16/microsofts-club-live-fiasco/


Bots Helped To Boost Microsoft Live Search Gains

,----[ Quote ]
| In a blog post, Compete analyst Steve Willis attributed Microsoft's 
| search gains to prizes awarded to users participating in Live Search 
| Club, which features games that post queries to Microsoft's search 
| engine.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Microsoft is essentially being DDoSed by thousands of people hundreds 
| of times per minute, but they are mistaking this rise in traffic for 
| people actually using Live Search."
`----

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201001092


Despite this, Live.com continue to lose market share:

Live Search's High Dive

,----[ Quote
| Microsoft's August and September declines clearly show that gimmicks aren't 
| enough to gain and maintain relevant search market share. 
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/live_searchs_high_dive.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535

Here are figures from  a survey. They will be out of date in the future(dynamic
content in the URL), but Google has 85% market share in search.

http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

Microsoft is merely nonexistent... like in the world's biggest PCs, where
Microsoft has a minuscule market share of 1%. Worry not however, because
Microsoft has already bought the media, so it'll find some propaganda-like
methods to hide these true facts.

-- 
                ~~ Best of wishes

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