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[News] Even a Microsoft Search Engineer Jumps Ship to Join Google

  • Subject: [News] Even a Microsoft Search Engineer Jumps Ship to Join Google
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:31:42 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
at least no chairs were thrown…

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| A friend of mine was walked out of Microsoft today.
| 
| I’m not talking about Stuart Scott, the now former Microsoft CIO who was 
| canned for “violating company policies.” No, another friend decided to leave 
| the MSN Live Search team and join Google Kirkland.   
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http://selberg.org/2007/11/06/at-least-no-chairs-were-thrown/


On Friday:

Another Microsoft Search reorg: Shum now leads engineering

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| That same month, Windows Live Platform VP Blake Irving resigned, as did Chris 
| Payne. the Corporate Vice President in charge of Windows Live Search. 
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=927


Related:

Microsoft Windows Live VP to resign

,----[ Quote ]
| Blake Irving, a Corporate Vice President in Microsoft's Windows
| Live Platform group, is resigning his post, according to sources
| close to the company.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=296


Former Microsoft Search Chief Bill Bliss On Early Search Missteps

,----[ Quote ]
| Bill's biggest regret? Not bypassing middle management that wasn't
| listening to him scream about the coming threat of Google and going
| right up to Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. 
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http://searchengineland.com/070309-094930.php


Microsoft Search Leader To Leave Company

,----[ Quote ]
| The Microsoft Corp. vice president who led the company's push into
| Internet search is leaving the software giant as the effort he
| helped launch loses ground against lead competitor Google Inc.
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http://online.wsj.com/preview_login.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB117329976478329930.html%3Fmod%3Dyahoo_hs%26ru%3Dyahoo
http://tinyurl.com/2jran7


Live Search's High Dive

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| Microsoft's August and September declines clearly show that gimmicks aren't 
| enough to gain and maintain relevant search market share. 
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/live_searchs_high_dive.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535


How Microsoft Clubs to Search Gains

,----[ Quote ]
| We checked with Hitwise, and they explained that June gains include “searches 
| automatically generated from a promotion on club.live.com,” up to June 9,  
| 2007. After that they stopped counting the data. 
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http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/how-microsoft-clubs-to-search-gains/


Tracking Internet Use Remains Difficult

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| For example, this month Nielsen said search-engine queries for No. 3-ranked 
| Microsoft Corp. jumped about 80 percent in June, a curious development for a 
| search engine that had been continuously losing market share.  
| 
| Microsoft said the gains were the result of a word game promotion, in which 
| players had to form words out of a jumble of letters. As part of the game, 
| Microsoft's search engine automatically hunted for Web pages that contained 
| the word being guessed at.   
| 
| The promotion raises the question of whether these clicks were the result of 
| using automated means, and therefore shouldn't be counted. 
| 
| Nielsen product manager Scott Ross said the company sees no need to change 
| the June search-engine rankings. Yet, he conceded that critics -- including 
| Yahoo, operator of the world's second most popular search engine -- may also 
| have a point about Microsoft using questionable means to spark the surge in 
| popularity.    
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070725/tracking_internet_usage.html?.v=1


By E-mail:

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| [...]
| 
| Live.com has been pinging people's sites with what appears to be referrer 
| spam.  There is a thread about it here: 
| http://www.webmasterworld.com/msn_microsoft_search/3424476.htm  
|  
| I posted a summary here -- I suspect that it's just old fashioned referrer 
| spam: http://pocketseo.com/analytics/146 
| 
| Some other takes on it:
|  
| 
http://andrewu.co.uk/webtech/comment/?odd_referrer_spamlike_behaviour_from_microsoft 
|  
| 
http://www.bitworm.com/search/2007/is-microsoft-live-search-stuffing-our-log-files/ 
|  
| I thought you might be interested.  I attached a sample excerpt from one of 
| my sites' logs in case you haven't seen it before.  [...] 
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Microsoft’s Club Live fiasco

,----[ Quote ]
| People were using the macro on more than 3 games at a time, on more than 2 
| accounts at a time, why Microsoft didn’t pick up on the fact that in the 
| first few days some people had accumulated enough for 3 Zunes each is beyond 
| us. Some were lucky, others, not so much.   
|
| [...]
| 
| So far no one has been banned from using their accounts, which they needed to 
| sign up, probably because they did not break any laws, or probably because 
| Microsoft didn’t want that hassle and liked their new found traffic.  
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http://www.blogthe.net/2007/07/16/microsofts-club-live-fiasco/


Bots Helped To Boost Microsoft Live Search Gains

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| In a blog post, Compete analyst Steve Willis attributed Microsoft's 
| search gains to prizes awarded to users participating in Live Search 
| Club, which features games that post queries to Microsoft's search 
| engine.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Microsoft is essentially being DDoSed by thousands of people hundreds 
| of times per minute, but they are mistaking this rise in traffic for 
| people actually using Live Search."
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http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201001092


Microsoft ties Windows Live services to OS in updates

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is tying its Windows Live services directly to its Windows OS.
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http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2218/070905mslivesvcs/index.html


Windows Live to Get First OEM Bundle

,----[ Quote ]
| The initial bundling would be for the Live homepage and Windows Live
| Toolbar, according to sources. Live search also is expected to be
| included in the deal. Other products or services could come in the
| future.
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/live_side.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/2jjymp


Older:

Microsoft 'not happy' with search results

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is continuing to lose market share in the search business
| to industry rival Google, something the software maker's financial
| chief said Thursday he is "not happy" about.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6153584.html


Will Berkowitz keep Windows Live?

,----[ Quote ]
| At the risk of moving this article over to the opinion blog, many
| of the problems Berkowitz faces were caused not by too much focus
| on technical wizardry, but by a lack of clear direction, both for
| MSN and for Windows Live.
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http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2006/12/10/ny-times-will-berkowitz-keep-windows-live.aspx


Sources: Several Windows Live Projects Halted

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft's Windows Live desktop search project has been
| shelved "indefinitely," although not much reasoning has been
| given as to the reason for its demise.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/Sources_Several_Windows_Live_Projects_Halted/1163715423


Ozzie: Vista, Office must adapt to Web era

,----[ Quote ]
| Ozzie said that the transition to integrate online services into Microsoft 
| products has been a challenge but that changes within the company are 
| happening.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6133895.html


Will Web 2.0 ultimately kill Windows?

,----[ Quote ]
|  Allchin shared his thoughts on Windows Live (which, along with Windows and 
| developer tools also falls under his organization); competition with Google 
| and Apple; and why a client-based version of Windows won?t ever completely 
| disappear, regardless of how successful Web services become.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=66


MSN Still Going Nowhere Fast

,----[ Quote ]
| It is worth noting that Microsoft still hasn't made any headway
| in the search-and-portal game and, in fact, is falling farther andf
| arther behind. As a result, it is not surprising that Steve Ballmer
| is now warning media companies that Google is the Evil Empire --
| because no other competitive tactic has worked.
`----

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/061116/20767_id.html?.v=1


Google, Yahoo gain share in U.S. Web search market

,----[ Quote ]
| Web audience measurement firm comScore Networks said No. 3-ranked
| Microsoft's share slid 0.5 percent to 10.5 percent of U.S. Web
| searches while InterActiveCorp's Ask.com's share dipped 0.1
| percent to 5.4 percent.
`----

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6150230.html


Is Windows Live dying?

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| Over the last year, Microsoft's Windows Live service lineup has
| grown exponentially. At one point months ago, it seemed clear
| that every service Microsoft brought online would fall under the
| Live brand, but lately the trend seems to be moving slowly in
| the opposite direction. What's happening to Windows Live?
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http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2007/2/20/7154

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